Talk:Momma's Boys
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Racial classifications
editI would really appreciate it if we would avoid coding the contestants according to race. I don't know exactly how the table is supposed to be formatted but I object to focusing on that. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 03:44, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- I would also point out that we don't blatantly emphasize the contestants' races and ethnicities in Wikipedia articles about other dating shows. We don't do that for The Bachelor or The Bachelorette or Age of Love or Beauty and the Geek or Flavor of Love or any other show I can find. If anyone wants to justify doing so, please explain it on the talk page. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:31, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- Once again, I would encourage anyone who wants to re-add the racial classifications to explain why on the talk page. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
- The show itself has made race a huge issue in the show due to Jojo's mother thus making it very notable to the show and less so to other dating shows. That is why a restore might make sense.--71.88.106.67 (talk) 05:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- But that's part of one participant's personal preferences (and which are portrayed, on the show, as bigoted). It's not something that Wikipedia ought to endorse. Not to mention that, as it turns out, numerous other color codes have since been added to the table, and adding four more color codes for race and ethnicity will just make the table more confusing. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:05, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- The show itself has made race a huge issue in the show due to Jojo's mother thus making it very notable to the show and less so to other dating shows. That is why a restore might make sense.--71.88.106.67 (talk) 05:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- Once again, I would encourage anyone who wants to re-add the racial classifications to explain why on the talk page. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Race was made a significant issue by Khalood Bojanowski (Jojo's mother) early in the series when she declared that she did not want Jojo to be with a black woman. That comment resulted in conflict between Khalood and some of the women, especially Vita, that dominated one episode. Given this context, race is an issue that is relevant to a critique of the series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueRobe (talk • contribs) 01:13, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Simplify the color coding? Get some redirects? Please?
editOk, as a casual wiki user I have to say that not only is this article incredibly hard to find, but the current color coding scheme is INCREDIBLY confusing. Many of the colors are so similar that I have to look really close to try to tell the difference between them & by that point I've forgotten what the color is supposed to be for. I can only imagine what it's like for those who are color blind in some form. Also I had problems finding this page as my spellings for it were slightly different. Maybe have a few redirects or add it to pages that are similar? (Such as the page for the band & the movie or making a disambiguation page?) I'd do it, but I know almost diddly squat about such things here on wiki. In any case, rather than having the multitude of colors, why not just have a small episode summary instead of posting colors for things that are (so far) for only one episode? (Such as the dossiers.) Really & truthfully, the contestant block should only have colors for the ones that were kicked off, won the challenge, were up for elimination, or won the show. As far as dates go, just mark it with a number or mention it in the episode recap. The board is way too ridiculously detailed as it is & requires more attention than it's worth to figure out. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 18:17, 2 January 2009 (UTC)Tokyogirl79
- I started writing up the episodes in text form. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- I removed some of the background colors for episode 4 because they were not defined in the color chart below the table. It would be helpful to incorporate some of the information currently indicated by colors in the table as text in the episode descriptions instead, because we are getting to the point where the table is hard to understand. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 10:30, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- I definitely agree about the color-coding. Really, these are all the categories we need: yes text, no text, maybe text and eliminated, maybe text and saved, quit the competition, and won the competition. Everything else (having one's file opened? going on a date?) belongs in a recap or nowhere, not in a grid.--209.6.203.31 (talk) 03:09, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
- I think I have simplified the color coding. I removed the color codes for "eliminated and went on a date in the same episode," "received a yes text," "saved at the pool," and "eliminated at the pool." I added a numerical superscript for "received a maybe text." Numerical superscripts are systematic, and much easier to find on the chart than random colors. There was no need for "eliminated and went on a date," because we already had superscripts for dates; you can just look and see if a person with the eliminated color background also went on a date. With the "maybe" superscripts, you can see that some "maybe" contestants were saved while others were eliminated; the episode itself now has a superscript indicating that texts were used, so it's clear that all non-maybe saved contestants got "yes" texts and all non-maybe eliminated contestants got "no" texts. The background for "yes" texts wasn't used in the chart anyway; it was just in the color key. I may make some additional changes along these lines, because I think are still a few too many colors used, but I'll hold off until tonight to see if there is strenuous objection to the changes I already made. --DavidK93 (talk) 16:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Megan (the animal girl) on IMDB
editDoes anyone think it's notable that Megan has a page on IMDB? 99.9.212.43 (talk) 03:37, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I agree. Megan was too good to be true when she appeared on that show: an adorable, virgin, sweeter-than-kittens animal-lover with the body of a lingerie model and the face of an angel. Megan was simply unbelievable - girls that perfect do NOT remain single.
Megan's page on imdb.com suggests that her "character" may have been contrived as a means to bolstering a public career of some kind. Maybe she was trying to establish an acting career. However, for all we know, Megan may truly be as lovely as she appeared on the show and her page on imdb was posted by an adoring fan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.89.50.173 (talk) 03:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Evidently, Megan's stint on Momma's Boys was little more than a strategy to boost to acting career. [1] BlueRobe 02:42, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
International versions
editWhy is there an 'international versions' section which includes the stuff from the Turkey, the Arab World and Italy ? This seems to imply these versions are based of this show which is clearly not the case since they preceeded it. In fact even if this show took any inspiration from these versions, it's clear this isn't officially based on these versions otherwise there wouldn't have been a IP dispute. As for the Indian version, it may be based this show but more likely it's based on the Turkey etc show. (The Swedish version may be based on this show.) Nil Einne (talk) 13:51, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- Found [2] which confirms those two versions are official licensees of the original concept of the Turkish show. Interestingly the Indian show isn't mentioned so perhaps it is based on Momma's Boys, or perhaps it's not officially licensed from either show. Nil Einne (talk) 14:03, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
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