Talk:Modes of persuasion

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Name of the article?

So far as I know, the Aristotelian principles are of persuasion, not of appeal. Persuasion is a far stronger word and in this respect the classical rhetoric was also considered. If this article is about classical rhetoric discussion I would suggest beginning it appropriately citing Aristotle On Rhetoric:

Persuasion is clearly a sort of demonstration, since we are most fully persuaded when we consider a thing to have been demonstrated.

Of the modes of persuasion furnished by the spoken word there are three kinds. [...] Persuasion is achieved by the speaker's personal character when the speech is so spoken as to make us think him credible. [...] Secondly, persuasion may come through the hearers, when the speech stirs their emotions. [...] Thirdly, persuasion is effected through the speech itself when we have proved a truth or an apparent truth by means of the persuasive arguments suitable to the case in question.

-- Aethralis 07:54, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Changed the name of the article accordilgly --Aethralis 13:13, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

"Modes of persuasion" does follow Rhys Roberts better. "Appeals" seems to be a modern term. Leaving it untranslated as "pisteis" is another option that Kennedy uses in his translation.ShanBendigedig1 (talk) 18:09, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

"data is difficult to manipulate"

A ridiculous assertion. What is intended by this must be made clearer by the writer.

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Kairos is not a mode of persuasion

The main article for Kairos contains: One of the most well known parts of Aristotle's Rhetoric is when he discusses the roles of pathos, ethos, and logos. Aristotle ties kairos to these concepts, claiming that there are times in each rhetorical situation when one needs to be utilized over the others. and also Kairos' purpose in modern rhetoric is mostly focused on the placement of logos, pathos, and ethos. If being timely and appropriate (Kairos) are modes of persuasion how many other things are too? Is brushing your teeth a mode of persuasion too? Phedrence (talk) 12:47, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Agreed, kairos is more about placing these three strategies. Unless we add a free-for-all strategies page, kairos works better separately, as a different part of Invention.ShanBendigedig1 (talk) 18:09, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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