Talk:Miura bull

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National Geographic, 1951, Volume 99, "Holy Week and Fair in Sevilla", Luis Marden

p.515: "Andalusians love fine horses and fighting bulls. Of Spain's 168 major breeding ranches of "fierce" bulls, nearly half are in Andalusia. To go to the most famous of them, the Miura ranch, I drove from Sevilla 20 miles to Carmona, site of an extensive Roman necropolis. Here a rudimentary road struck off across seemingly limitless pastureland. Don Eduardo Miura, present head of an establishment that traces its blood line unbroken back to 1842, received me in his handsome white cortijo country house, and over glasses of manzanilla, a white wine like sherry, but drier and more aromatic, we talked of the bravery trials I had witnessed here some weeks before. Don Eduardo had sent me a guarded telegram. "House party set for Thursday," it read, "hope you can come." Breeders conceal the date of bravery trials, because if word leaked out, every aficionado for miles around who could drive, ride, or walk would hurry to the scene and impede the work of the herdsmen. In a big pasture two wagons were lashed together as a camera platform from which I could make motion pictures. The Miuras, father and son (Don Antonio Miura has ceded the direction of the ranch to his son Eduardo), and a group of friends including Pepe Luis Vázquez, one of Spain's leading matadors, wearing Andalusian country dress and wide-brimmed sevillano hat, mounted agile horses. Most Andalusians are born horsemen. Perhaps their skill and their love of horseflesh...

p.516: ...stem from the Moors, whose old proverb says that the horse, the woman, and the rose are God's most beautiful creations, presumably in that order. Don Eduardo and his friends carried long, blunt-pointed lances with which to topple the young bulls, which had been herded into one corner of the pasture. / At a signal, two horsemen with lowered lances rode off to single out one bull. The senior Miura and his ranch overseers and foremen rode slowly after them. Riding hard, the two horsemen bore down on the running bull. One rider kept the bull from swerving away, while the other lowered his lance and caught the bull in the rump with its point, toppling him head over heels. Those who followed carefully noted in the record book the reaction of the young bull—whether on regaining his feet he turned and charged the lancers, or ran away. His bravery or lack of it determined whether he should become a fighting bull or beef. Two by two, the guests rode after their bulls. Once the lancer was thrown backward off his horse by the impact, but the other rider engaged the attention of the bull until his friend could remount. The fighting bull, selected for generations for pugnacity, will charge and attempt to kill anything that moves. Bullfighters have an almost superstitious awe of Miura bulls; they say they have a neck like an accordion, which they can stretch out to hook the matador as they charge by to follow the cape or muleta. Formerly, bulls were not considered ready for the ring until five years old; now they are fought at four or even younger. One reason is that, as my friend Don Pablo Merry del Val says, "age makes alcoholic drinks and bulls more expensive," and the breeder wants to get a return on his investment as soon as possible."

p.518: "Toreros feel an almost superstitious awe for Andalusia's Miura strain, which has been bred without a break for more than a hundred years. Many bullfighting greats have met death on the horns of Miuras. A generation ago several matadors refused to meet them in the ring. Each January, as rains refresh the grass and strengthen the calves, Miura breeders hold bravery trials to cull any timid Ferdinand out of the herds. Here the rear horseman, rising in the stirrups, aims his lance at the bull's rump and bowls him heels over head. Then, if the animal gets up and charges, he is marked as a ring fighter. If he runs away, he becomes steak. Even the cows are bravery-tested with cape and muleta, but bulls never receive such trials lest they learn to seek the man behind the cloth."

doubts about the objectivity of this article edit

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Sorry, but only quoting glamorous glorifying newspaper articles, aficionado sites and Hemingway based on heresay and rumors, but no way with scientific facts, such a thing has no place in an encyclopedia like Wiki.
When you e.g. read this:
There are certain strains of bull with a marked ability to learn from what goes on in the arena ... faster than the actual fight progresses which makes it more difficult from one minute to the next to control them ... these bulls are raised by Don Eduardo Miura's sons from old fighting stock...

and then that:
Islero had poor eyesight and tended to chop with his right horn.[5] He was the 5th bull of the afternoon, and the 2nd for Manolete, at a bullfight in the town of Linares in the province of Jaén, Andalusia, Spain. The bull's manager begged Manolete to finish him off quickly; as the matador reached over the bull's horns, thrusting his sword deep up to its hilt, Islero thrust his right horn, goring Manolete in the groin, severing his femoral artery. The bullfighter was rushed to the hospital, but he died on the operating table later that evening.

How could Islero have had a learning ability when he had a defect receptor organ (his eyes) to import information he would have needed for an evaluation of the situation?
Beside that, he was a "right hander". Manolete knew that but failed to use it for his advantage (he died not of the bloodloss -he died of a wrong blood transfusion)
And if bulls really would have this kind of learning ability, why 99% of all bullfights go that foresaid way -even with that of the Miura brand?

That there re photos from Fisk-Harrson and a Lamborghini sportscar postd, proof that this is no way an objective article -its a cheap gloryfying ad for anima cruelty

--77.119.145.137 (talk) 05:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

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