Talk:Mister You

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Wow

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That's all I can say. --Malerooster (talk) 00:56, 4 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Adding a note on User Talk: Jimbo Wales

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On 4 August I added this note on Jimbo Wales page (co-creator of Wikipedia) about mention of Mister You of his Wikipedia page in his song "A toi""


"Knowing" someone through Wikipedia

I came across this pretty song by a Moroccan French artist Mister You. He read some remarks about himself on Wikipedia after a turbulent past and run-ins with the police and he protests how this effected his relationship with his love. Accused of many criminal activities, he protests in his song "À toi" (meaning "To you") (See music video): "Laisse moi t'enlacer, habi laisse moi t'embrasser / Laisse moi te montrer à quelle point je suis un mec censé / Qu j'ai envie de me caser, non, ne te fie pas à mon casier / Et n'écoute pas les médias / Qui te font croire que je suis un gobeur / qui me connaissent que grâce à Wikipédia!" Rough translation of this part of the lyrics: "Let me kiss you and embrace you / Let me show you how a considerate man I am / I want to squeeze you / Don't believe in my [criminal] file / And don't listen to the media / That made you believe I was a druggie / that just know me [thanks] to Wikipedia " - The precious "Wikipedia reference" is at 1:21 of the video... It just shows personal life sections on our various musical artist pages are well read and considered as given truths. LOL (August 4, 2014) -- (End of message)

Of course this "cute reference" about this particular page being mentioned in a song didn't interest any other Wikipedia colleague to come in to Jimbo's page and put a kind remark or two to pinpoint the humour behind this "Wikipedia quotation in a song".... why should they when they use all their energy to argue endlessly on poisonous subjects and create just misery in this lovely collaborative community of editors we call Wikipedians... But it however led one esteemed colleague Malerooster who didn't know the foggiest about Mister You all these years to suddenly rush in virtually minutes to check in the details of the article after my piece appearing (as a creator and big contributor to the page) and in a spree of edits remove almost anything and everything of his judicial case and run-ins with police. He used the reasoning of BLP that none of the facts were supported by references and as a "biography of a living person" (BLP) it should... just leaving some French language articles he couldn't read so he claims... as if with my near 190,000 edits, I couldn't have just added dozens and dozens of the necessary references he was asking for to make it compliant to Wikipedia's BLP rules. I had just spared the guy because I have developed quite a liking to his work, followed his saga, listened to tens of his songs in various phases of his career, checked his media interviews and shows, strongly supported the case of his release, and dutifully added timely updates of all his releases and chart appearances and generally his musical career... so why make life more complicated I had reasoned...

Other than that nobody really cared to see the relevance of Mister You mentioning this specific page (but in fairness, surely he must have read the French page and not this... But still...

So my cute happy little note to Jimbo Wales just cost the taking out of almost all the so-called "offending parts" because of Wikipedia's famous BLP. Now you know a new Wikipedia term, so be happier... Hope as it stands now, readers know more about this artist by knowing less about him. And no I will not reinstate the notes and won't add the necessary BLP references... For me I am just content international readers who may not be familiar with this French Moroccan artist at least have a way of reading about him in English language worldwide ... and that's the whole purpose after all, isn't it? So be a sports, go to Mister You's page, check his output, enjoy some of his recordings. Happy listening... even if it is in French werldwayd (talk) 01:06, 6 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hi Werldwayd, first off. I don't "claim" sh%t. I don't read French despite 4 years of taking it at an elite all boys prep school. That was a bizzillion years ago and I suck at languages, English included :). Next, near 190,000 edits is very very unimpressive, just saying. Next, absolutely no to that's the whole purpose after all, that is NOT the purpose of this project and is the exact reason why Wikipedia is a JOKE in academic circles. --Malerooster (talk) 01:22, 6 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
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