Talk:Miss Universe 2018/Archive 1

Archive 1

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2017

Universo2008 (talk) 07:23, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2017

Universo2008 (talk) 07:25, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Gulumeemee (talk) 09:15, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2018

I want to put the date for the Miss Costa Rica pageant. It is incorrect to block a page the whole world should upload https://www.teletica.com/182894_9-candidatas-a-la-corona-de-miss-costa-rica-comenzaron-sus-ensayos-de-cara-a-la-gran-final-en-abril 201.206.42.160 (talk) 23:09, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for the sourced information. If you would like to contribute further, please consider registering an account here. Your help would be greatly appreciated. NewYorkActuary (talk) 00:12, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Recent edit warring

Although I think it unlikely that the uncommunicative IP address is going to engage in discussion here, let's give them the benefit of the doubt and ask them to justify their edit warring over the following three points.

1. Regarding the infobox, what purpose is served by pointing to an article that does not now exist and will not exist for another year?
2. Do you have a source that reliably shows that Armenia will participate in Miss Universe this year? The source you are using doesn't say that it will (it only announces the date of the national pageant). And Armenia did not send a delegate to Miss Universe last year (even though they said that they would).
3. Serbia has not competed in the last two Miss Universe's. Why should we be taking an Instagram post from a contestant as proof that Serbia is going to participate in this year's pageant?

I look forward to the IP address's response. NewYorkActuary (talk) 15:11, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2018

112.204.114.247 (talk) 11:33, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

I will just add the new miss universe serbia maja marcic

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:39, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Why Protecting this Page?Are You The President of Miss Universe?Or an Any Staff/Faculty Member of our Organization? Paula schugart (talk) 09:22, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 May 2018

49.148.84.16 (talk) 10:59, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. L293D (☎ • ✎) 13:06, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

49.146.43.146 (talk) 05:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Not done: Same reason as above. NewYorkActuary (talk) 05:04, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Unprotect Page

{{edit unprotect|Miss Universe 2018}}

49.146.43.146 (talk) 06:15, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Unprotect Page 4 May 2018 16:20

Arlene Echavez (talk) 07:21, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 09:03, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Unprotected edit request on 4 May 2018

{{edit unprotect|Miss Universe 2018|answer=yes}}

Arlene Echavez (talk) 09:13, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. NiciVampireHeart 12:39, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Delete Protection

49.146.43.146 (talk) 15:14, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

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unprotect

49.146.43.146 (talk) 05:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. Opening multiple edit requests will not change the answer. If you want the page unprotected, you have to request it at WP:RFPP. NiciVampireHeart 12:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2018

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. L293D (☎ • ✎) 12:34, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2018

The Contestant for United States, Sara Rose Summers should have Hometown changed from 'Omaha' to 'Papillion

Link to Papillion should then be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papillion,_Nebraska 184.185.7.6 (talk) 21:56, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Wikipedia does not cite itself, sorry. - FlightTime (open channel) 22:01, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

I have made this change with a reference ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  16:18, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Kyrgyzstan

Hello!

Angelopedia is not a good source, it's only when we can go to another references since Angelopedia (or fotos, or press release, or video or something) but in this case, is not:

• The Begimay's FB page has not nothing about Miss Universe, and is a private profile.
• There is not a Miss Universe Kyrgyzstan page (in facebook or any more).
• The pics of Begimay has not a sash of "Miss Universe Kyrgyzstan".
• There is not a video, or pic of Miss Universe Kyrgyzstan coronation.
• There is not a proof about Begimay participation at Miss Universe.

In this ocasion, we should to have better sources!--Alex Duilius (talk) 04:28, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

@Alex Duilius: Hello, Alex. Thank you for engaging in discussion. Angelopedia is a reliable source, even if it doesn't have pictures of contestants wearing sashes. As for proof that the organization intends to send a delegate to Miss Universe -- that's exactly what the reliable source is reporting. Unless you have a source that contradicts it, we can accept the report from Angelopedia.

By the way, the same thing is now being reported by the Indian Times. If you wish to remove this entry from the list, you really need to produce a source that contradicts the one already in the article.

Thanks again for the discussion. I'll be happy to discuss further if you wish. NewYorkActuary (talk) 05:01, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello: I'm still not convinced of the references about Kyrgyzstan. Every year we face the same: information supposedly confirmed and finally ends up being a hoax. In the case of the delegate from Kyrgyzstan, I can't find specific information, only pictures of her modeling, but she lacks the support of a company or, I repeat, pictures of her crowned. As editors we must be careful with this. I repeat, every year we are victims of hoaxes and we must learn to be patient. If the information from Kyrgyzstan proves true, a reliable source will eventually come to light. You claim that "The Times of India" supports the information, but the big newspapers also make mistakes; in addition, this same source says that she "emerged as winner of the grand finale of Miss Universe Kyrgyzstan", Wich final? There was no one! Likewise, there are pages like GlobalBeauties that every year exaggerates information and gives facts as things that are not confirmed. Please, those can not be our main references, we are breaking the basic principle of Wikipedia that is to give information until it is absolutely true. I ask that you please respect the edition and do not add it again until there is an irrefutable source. For now, all references are weak and without support. --Alex Duilius (talk) 17:37, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

@Alex Duilius: Hello again, Alex. I've restored the listing for Kyrgyzstan, but I'll also take some time to explain my reasoning.

I'm unsure as to why you mentioned the Global Beauties site, because the site being used as a source as of your most recent removal was Pageanthology 101. But that's not a big deal, because I don't think the Pageanthology site is reliable and I've removed it. As for the possibility that reliable sources like Angelopedia or the India Times might make mistakes -- of course they might. But that's true of every reliable source used throughout Wikipedia. It takes more than the mere possibility of error to remove reliably-sourced content.

You'll see that I've restored the earlier Angelopedia source (which doesn't source the personal details, which I've removed). But you'll also see that I've added a second source -- the Miss Universe Organization itself. Taken together, I don't see any plausible basis for not acknowledging the delegate from Kyrgyzstan.

I'll be happy to discuss further if you wish. NewYorkActuary (talk) 18:42, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry. The sources still are not convincing! The page from Facebook that you put, is not official, be careful with that!. Wikipedia need a forceful source!--Alex Duilius (talk) 18:51, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

@Alex Duilius: You are quite right about the Facebook source. The official Facebook account for the pageant is "MissUniverse" and I'm surprised that Facebook would allow someone else to establish an account titled "Miss Universe Organization". But regardless of my surprise, the source can not be used.

Since our last postings, the Kyrgyzstan entry was restored by a different editor and again removed by you. I've just restored it again, this time with a note alerting the reader to the possibility that there was no actual pageant and that the delegate might simply have been appointed.

If you continue to disagree with having this entry, I encourage you to find a reliable source that supports your position. Or, you can pursue dispute resolution at WP:DRN. Either of these approaches will be far better than edit warring against all who disagree with your position. NewYorkActuary (talk) 12:13, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Best regards. It is not my intention to promote a war of editions, but the situation is very clear: the references don't support the participation of this girl in Miss Universe. We are talking about a fan page that mentions that the girl was designated ..., by whom? when? where and how? The situation is more diffuse when some sources say that she was crowned and others that she was designated. So, I'm not the one who has to look for sources that contradict this, on the contrary, you have to look for sources that support this information. I repeat, i'm not causing a war of editions, but you do not understand that they are endorsing an information that by itself does not hold. Sorry!--Alex Duilius (talk) 21:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

By my count, there are five editors here who believe the identification of the delegate to have been reliably reported. Your reversions have all been based on your own belief that (to use your words) "big newspapers make mistakes". But if you have evidence that shows the reliable sources have erred in their identification of the delegate, you haven't presented it here.

I've restored the entry for Kyrgyzstan. If you remove it without presenting reliable evidence, I will file a complaint at an appropriate administrative noticeboard. Rather than take that route, I encourage you to explore Wikipedia's mechanisms for dispute resolution (WP:DRN). NewYorkActuary (talk) 01:10, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi. By your count, there are five editors whom repeat the same info, without more support that their own word. You can bring one thousand of references, but, if the one thousand of references are weak, then, the one thousand of references doesn't work by support info in Wikipedia. I'm sorry! If you need to make a complaint, please, do it (I'm not trying to make a challenge, I'm not a native English speaker, maybe it's not entirely clear); i'm pretty sure i'm making the correct process for editions without reliable sources. Best regards!--Alex Duilius (talk) 04:42, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello again, Alex. It seems that my filing at the administrators' noticeboard (WP:ANEW) is going to be closed soon, the only action taken being the advice left on your Talk page by an administrator (and that was the only thing that I asked the administrators to do). In a few moments,, I'll be restoring the entry for Kyrgyzstan. If you continue to disagree with this, I encourage you once again to stop edit-warring and avail yourself of Wikipedia's formal procedures for dispute resolution. NewYorkActuary (talk) 18:10, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Miss USA Sarah Rose Summers hometown

Papillion is a suburb of Omaha, since we have the sources to verify Papillion I would suggest we should be more specific than just listing Omaha as per the Miss USA website. ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  03:31, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Oppose: I don't think it's our business to determine where someone's hometown is. In interviews, Summers has asserted that she is "from Omaha", and the information on her Miss USA bio comes from the info that she submitted to them, so it's pretty clear that she identifies as her hometown being Omaha rather than Papillion, even though that's where she was raised. This is very common for people from suburbs of larger American cities. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 03:48, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Hmmmm you might have a point there, her FB (not a RS of course but just for the sake of the discussion) says she is "from" Papillion but "lives in" Omaha (not for the next year though!). I could have sworn I heard her say Papillion recently but I might be mistaken - I always figured saying "Omaha" was more general so that people would know where she was talking about. But I'm happy to defer on this one. ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  03:52, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Angelopedia a reliable source?

user:NewYorkActuary I am curious, as to why you understand Angelopedia to be a RS. It appears to be WP:USERGENERATED. I don't see anything [https://www.angelopedia.com/Contact-Us here] about them fact checking things. Their [https://www.angelopedia.com/Terms-of-use Terms of Use] say "All information, data, text, software, music, sound, photographs, graphics, video, messages or other materials ("Content"), whether publicly or privately transmitted / posted, is the sole responsibility of the person from where such content is originated (the Originator).... The Company accepts no responsibility for the said Content / Images. However, you understand that all Content / Images posted by you becomes the property of the Company and you agree to grant/assign to the Company and its affiliates, a non-exclusive, royalty free, perpetual, irrevocable and sub-licensable right to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such Content / Images (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now known or later developed throughout the world." (which is fairly horrible - we take no responsibility, but we own it). I searched at RSN and this source has not been discussed there. So again, why do you believe this is RS? Jytdog (talk) 03:20, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

@Jytdog: Thanks for asking. As you can see, I've refactored your question as a separate section, because its subject matter goes beyond that of Kyrgyzstan.

There is no doubt that some portions of Angelopedia are user-generated. Although I haven't done it myself, I understand that people who subscribe as "Members" have access to a separate section of the site, where they can post personal profiles and participate in community discussions. All of that, of course, is user-generated material. But it is equally true that Wikipedians who cite Angelopedia as a source are never citing to anything in the Members sections. I also think it would be an unwarranted stretch to say that the existence of a Members section implies that even the by-lined articles in Angelopedia's "article space" are also user-generated.

What is much more likely is that Angelopedia's articles, although not user-generated, are nonetheless based on user-submitted information. For example, some of the pageants have "Info" pages that give a brief history of the pageant and identify its current operators. I doubt very much that Angelopedia is employing teams of researchers to develop this information. Instead, I find it easy to believe that the "Info" pages are submitted by the pageant itself. As such, they can be accorded the same level of reliability as we would give to the "About Us" page on any organization's web site (i.e., acceptable as sources of basic information about the organization itself). Similarly, I expect that Angelopedia's by-lined articles are based on information from press releases. Here, too, we can accord them the same level of reliability that we would give to any organization's press releases, including those that we find on third-party sites such as PRNewsWire. They certainly can't be used to demonstrate notability, but they can be used as reliable sources of basic information.

Assuming I'm correct about the source of the factual information on the site, this reliability depends not so much on Angelopedia's checking of facts, but on its verification that the submitters of the information are themselves reliable sources for it. And this can be tested. Jytdog, I propose the following experiment.

Head on over to the "Contact Us" page at Angelopedia and identify yourself as the social-media associate for Miss Earth Reunion Island. Inform them that this year's pageant, tentatively scheduled for July, has been cancelled. In place of the pageant, your organization has appointed Zoe Parlange as its delegate to Miss Earth. (Parlange is an actual contestant this year, so your report might have a "ring of truth" to it). And if you succeed in getting that false report published, be sure to archive it on the Wayback Machine. After that, come on back here with what will be clear proof of the site's unreliability.

Alternatively, you can sign up as a Member and see how far that membership takes you. If it allows you to post that false report as an article in Angelopedia's non-Member space, then do the same thing -- archive it at the Wayback Machine and come back here with that positive proof.

Frankly, I don't think this false information will get anywhere near the publicly-viewable portion of Angelopedia. Instead, I expect that you'll be challenged to prove that you really are associated with the Reunion pageant. But if I'm wrong about that then, as the old poet said, "gladly will I learn". NewYorkActuary (talk) 14:48, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't find that completely convincing. I am going to post at RSN, and will post the link here when I do. Jytdog (talk) 19:37, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

 Done at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Angelopedia. Jytdog (talk) 19:55, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

• There is a developed consensus at RSN that Angelopedia is not reliable for the kinds of statements it is used to support. Jytdog (talk) 04:02, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Indonesia - Sonia Fergina Citra

Bisakah anda mengedit bahwa perwakilan dari Indonesia - Sonia Fergina Citra, Bahwa umur dia saat ini 26 tahun, dan tinggi badan 1,78 cm, serta bertempat tinggal di Tanjung Pandan, Terima Kasih Helmy Anwar (talk) 08:13, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Maaf saya salah menulis, maksud saya 1,78 M Helmy Anwar (talk) 08:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

It is preferable to use English on all talk pages of English Wikipedia so comments may be comprehensible to the community. If using another language is unavoidable, try to provide a translation of the comments. If you cannot translate the comments, third parties or Wikipedia:Embassy can help. (see WP:SPEAKENGLISH) ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  08:43, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Kyrgyzstan 2

HELLO:

I'm still not convinced of the participation of Kyrgyzstan in Miss Universe 2018, I make a list with my reasons, with the hope more people take part of the discussion, and make a real consensus:

• The only person who says that Begimay Karybekova will take part of Miss Universe is herserlf, at their own Instagram Profile.
• Apparently, no company or organization supports her appointment as Miss Universe Kyrgyz Republic 2018; there is no information, facebook profile or pages of any company that has designated this girl.
• The sources used to support the information contradict a very important point: some sources say that she was designed, and another say that she won a contest.
• Do not exist photos or videos, neither of her contest, or her appointment.
• The main sources are fan pages, and a newspaper that does not give more information than the replica of we read in fan pages.
• We can not blindly trust sources: if India Times says that cows fly ... then cows fly? We must use the criteria and experience that editing in Wikipedia has given us.
• Before reasonable doubts, the procedure of Wikipedia must be not to put the information until more reliable sources confirm it. I do not do it myself, because I've been scolded for doing it.

I wait for more opinions. --Alex Duilius (talk) 19:33, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Our article The Times of India says "It is the fourth-largest newspaper in India by circulation and largest selling English-language daily in the world[2][3][4][5] according to Audit Bureau of Circulations (India).[1][6] It is the oldest English-language newspaper in India still in circulation,[7] with its first edition published in 1838. and the second-oldest Indian newspaper still in circulation after the Bombay Samachar. At the turn of the 19th century Lord Curzon, the Viceroy of India, called The Times of India "the leading paper in Asia".[8][9] In 1991 the BBC ranked The Times of India among the world's six best newspapers.[10][11]" That sounds like it's a pretty good example of a Wikipedia:Reliable source. If you have a different source that says that Begimay Karybekova is not Miss Universe Kyrgyzstan 2018, we can consider it, but without one, we should use the Times of India statement. --GRuban (talk) 19:40, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

The reference used in the article is India Times, not Times of India, it is the same (excuse the question, I do not belong to the English-speaking world)? On the other hand, newspapers are gods of information that can not have errors? In the specific case of the India Times used reference, it is only a video, with studio photos of the girl in question, which states that she won a contest of which there are no photos or more information (when it was made, where, and who competed, for example). Nobody signs the note, nor is there a news agency to back it up. So, in truth, it is an irrefutable reference? Why should we look for a reference that contradicts one so weakly constructed, that by itself does not hold?--Alex Duilius (talk) 04:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Good point about the Times of India not being the same as the India Times (see the "Judean People's Front" (not to be confused with the "People's Front of Judea"); not strictly relevant, except as a possible aid to join the English speaking world...). I admit the difference was not at all clear, since the Times of India is hosted on the same web site domain, and the India Times pages display links to the Times of India at the top and bottom of each page. And, of course, our two links redirect to the same Wikipedia page! However, it does seem to be a closely related source, from the same publishing group, and to have an actual staff and publishing history, not just a wiki or some person's blog, so, barring evidence to the contrary, should still be enough for the simple statement identifying BK as being Miss Universe Kyrgyzstan. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? Any source that says that some other person is Miss Universe Kyrgyzstan? That there is no Miss Universe Kyrgyzstan? Anything? It's not an irrefutable reference, but we do need some actual refutation. Newspapers are absolutely not gods of information, and can certainly have errors; however, if we would only use references from divine sources, we would have no content. Our standards are not "only gods of information", merely Wikipedia:Reliable sources, and it looks like the India Times is one. --GRuban (talk) 14:53, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Indonesia

Please Editing About Indonesia : Country/Territory : Indonesia Delegate : Sonia Fergina Citra Age : 26 Height : 1,78 m Hometown : Tanjung Pandan Thank You For Editing Helmy Anwar (talk) 10:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, do you have a reliable source to support this edit request? ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  10:17, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Your Open Wikipedia Of Sonia Fergina Citra, This Is Really Helmy Anwar (talk) 10:22, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Sorry This is Real

Helmy Anwar (talk) 10:29, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, This Is Real Helmy Anwar (talk) 10:30, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

One of Wikipedia's policies is verifiability, it may well be real but without a reliable source we cannot include it ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  11:06, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Is Official from Puteri Indonesia Account Helmy Anwar (talk) 16:32, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Is Official from Puteri Indonesia Account Helmy Anwar (talk) 16:32, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, please edit Indonesia Flag, and it is India Flag. And now age 26 years old, she is born 27 April 1992. And Hometown in a city of Bangka Belitung Province, Tanjung Pandan Thank you for Editing Helmy Anwar (talk) 06:08, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Indonesia Sonia Fergina Citra 26 Years Old 178 Cm Tanjung Pandan

Helmy Anwar (talk) 06:11, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Please edit, and i not can editing in wikipedia, Thank you Helmy Anwar (talk) 06:14, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Indonesia 2

Please Edit About Indonesia, Sonia Fergina, She Is Born 27 April 1992, And Now She Is 26 Years Old, And She Is HomeTown In Tanjung Pandan, This Is A City In Bangka Belitung Thank You Very Much Helmy Anwar (talk) 08:22, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Please Edit About Indonesia Country/Territory : Indonesia, Delegates : Sonia Fergina Citra, Age : 26, Height : 178 Cm, Homwtown : Tanjung Pandan Thank you Helmy Anwar (talk) 08:28, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Please Edit About Indonesia Hometown : 26 Thank You

Helmy Anwar (talk) 08:30, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 June 2018

i will add an citation 124.104.82.29 (talk) 12:50, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Sam Sailor 13:14, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Miss El Salvador 2018

miss El Salvador universe is : Marisela De Montecristo

Here is here wiki link with height information , home town, height etc .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marisela_de_Montecristo A casti3 (talk) 04:48, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Miss Netherlands pageant date

Miss netherlands will take place on 9th of july 2018. source: https://missnederland.nl/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Najra197924 (talk • contribs) 08:17, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Indonesia

Please edit Indonesia Hometown, it wrong, and Indonesia Hometown in Tanjung Pandan a city of Bangka Belitung Province, and Pangkalpinang its wrong, Thank You Helmy Anwar (talk) 22:08, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2018

Jasiel16 (talk) 22:32, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

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 Done Sam Sailor 09:54, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit Request for Miss Lebanon 2018

I would like to request an edit. In the Section for 2018 country national pageants to come, Miss Lebanon is missing. The Miss Lebanon pageant takes place on September 24, 2018. The Winner will join compete in the 2018 Miss Universe pageant. Thank you!

RoyalPrince24

 Not done: duplicate request Danski454 (talk) 10:01, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit Request for Miss Lebanon 2018 on July 21 2018

I would like to request an edit. In the Section for 2018 country national pageants to come, Miss Lebanon is missing. The Miss Lebanon pageant takes place on September 24, 2018. The Winner will join compete in the 2018 Miss Universe pageant. Thank you!

RoyalPrince24 (talk) 16:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)RoyalPrince24 July 21, 2018.

 Not done: please provide a reliable source for the date. Danski454 (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2018

I want to edit a word in this page Jannray alib (talk) 12:01, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. L293D (☎ • ✎) 18:51, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Miss Argentina 2018

Miss Argentina is Agustina Piwowarchik Yuval Krish goyal (talk) 12:45, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Miss Universe Slovenia

As it seems there will be withdrawal from Slovenia. Their answer to me from official facebook page Miss Universe Slovenija was in Croatian language (seems reasonable since rights owner comes from there) that this year will be no peagent in Slovenia. Seedorfen (talk) 20:13, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Pageants contestants

Zoe Brunet of Belgium Yuval Krish goyal (talk) 10:56, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2018

Can you update Athena McNinch with the text below? I dont have edit authority yet. Also her height is 5'7". Thanks Ron McNinch (her dad)

Athena Eva Su McNinch (born in Tumuning, Guam, December 1997) is a Guamanian graduate student and beauty pageant titleholder who won the Miss Universe Guam 2018. Athena will now represent Guam at the 2018 Miss Universe Pageant in Bangkok, Thailand.

Early Life and Education Athena lives in Mangilao, Guam. Her father is Irish-Norwegian and her mother is from Kaohsiung, Taiwan and is Chinese-Polynesian. In May 2018, she finished two undergraduate degrees with honors at the University of Guam. One degree is in public administration and the other in criminal justice. She is currently working on a graduate degree in Public Administration at UOG and has a strong interest in civil rights for women, children and underserved populations. In high school Athena was a Summer Camp Aide for five and six year olds at the University of Guam. In college she worked as a barrista at a coffee shop.

Awards and Honors At 13, Athena was the youngest person to finish the Guam Ko’ko Half Marathon Race. In 2017, she was named a national Harry S. Truman Scholar. In 2018, Athena earned the US Congressional Award Gold Medal. Athena is also an active member of Alpha Phi Sigma, Blue Key Honors Society and Golden Key International Honours Society.

Pageantry

Athena was crowned Miss Universe Guam 2018 by 2017 Miss Universe Guam Myana Welch at the Guam Sheraton. She will represent Guam in Bangkok, Thailand in December 2018. In 2015, Athena was named First Runner Up in the Miss World Guam Pageant. In 2014, Athena represented Guam in the Face of Beauty International Pageant. Ronmcninch (talk) 02:45, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Now you are auto confirmed now Hhkohh (talk) 15:24, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Don't forget Austria

So far, that is the one country missing from the list, though it is participating. Her name is Izabela Ion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.184.24.98 (talk) 00:53, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Miss Belgium

Is official the New Miss universe Belgium is Zoé Brunet. Rml2212 (talk) 18:07, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Where is Austria

Izabela Ion crowned Miss universe Austria source :Wikipedia, you tube and angelopedia Yuval Krish goyal (talk) 05:47, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Contestants Height

The table has been formatted without the height measurements since the beginning, due to inaccurate infromaton regarding legibility on contestants heights. None of the beauty pageant pageants have height column anymore. I was checking and alot of the contestants had wrong height information on here. There's no point of going through every single contestant and fix their height when the column enver existed from the begining. I have removed the heigh column because of this problem that beauty pageant pages have: inaccurate information on contestant's height Art 281 (talk) 21:38, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Other withdrawing countries

Austria, Iraq, Romania, Serbia and Slovenia are the other countries that have withdrawn. Please edit the page to reflect this. Rahu22 (talk) 19:52, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Sierra Leone

This is my attempt to engage DanaRhys regarding the participation of Sierra Leone. This user added the country and has repeatedly reverted its subsequent removal by multiple users. The only source given was Instagram, a self-published source, and the competition's site does not list a participant from Sierra Leone. No communication has yet been received from this user regarding their edits. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 12:42, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2018

SIERRA LEONE - Marie Esther Bangura

http://missosology.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1532611 Raffyob (talk) 10:30, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sakura Cartelet^Talk 20:54, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry but forum posts are generally not considered reliable under Wikipedia policy. Sakura Cartelet^Talk 20:55, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

ITN

The above ITN nomination was closed rather quickly as having no hope of achieving consensus (see here). However it was at least arguably starting to do a bit better after the First Transgender Contestant very belatedly got mentioned and got given an altblurb. In theory somebody might try to renominate it based largely or entirely on this aspect, tho I expect it would still fail, possibly after some unpleasantness for allegedly re-nominating a supposedly hopeless closed nomination, so I won't be trying it myself. But when the First Transgender Contestant aspect was brought up, an opponent of the ITN nomination suggested it might make a good DYK (Did You Know) candidate for the front page. I know nothing about DYK (except that the DYK nomination page is here), so I won't be trying it myself, but I just thought I'd mention this DYK possibility here in case some other editor might wish to think about having a go. Regards, Tlhslobus (talk) 02:30, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2018

Miss Universe 2018 also became the first time in the history of the Miss Universe Pageant that a Trans-gendered contestant was allowed to compete. Angela Ponce, Miss Spain 2018, made history as the first trans-gendered woman to compete in the Miss Universe Pageant. She failed to make the Top 20, but her presence at the pageant left a lasting impression, including a special walk in honor of her history making moment. Rybellion (talk) 03:12, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — JJMC89 (T·C) 19:31, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2019

Monique Lhuillier Bridal is not based in the Philippines. The fashion houses are in Los Angeles and New York, and has no presence in the Philippines. The description should be Monique Lhuillier – Filipino-American fashion designer and creative director of Monique Lhuillier.

https://moniquelhuillier.com/pages/about — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jodiabesamis (talk • contribs) 14:02, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Notes

I noticed that in other pages of editions of Miss Universe, like the 2017 page and the 2016 page this section is present with notes about withdrawals, designations, debuts, and replacements, however in both 2018 and 2019 pages, this not present, instead there is a selection of participants sub-section under "Background". The notes section is present not only in the 2016 & 2017 editions of Miss Universe but also present in other pages for International pageants like Miss Universe. For example Miss World 2019, Miss World 2018, Miss International 2019, Miss International 2018, Miss Earth 2019, and Miss Earth 2018. IZ041 (talk) 18:50, 27 August 2019 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by IZ041 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

It's been discussed already. It has been agreed that the notes section should be disintegrated into paragraph form. It's kinda uncyclopedic when we have a list that doesn't provide a reliable source supporting the information, as Wikiproject Beauty Pageants is suffering from unsourced information. Triila73 (talk) 14:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)