Talk:Mirror writing

Hello everyone...like everybody else introducing themselves here I'm a mirror writer too..i can use both hands to write normal script as well as mirrored script. My family thinks I've got some serious psychological issues as dyslexia is not a family illness.I am not sure whether I'm a psycho or gifted but i love mirror writing none the less. God bless you all

Mirror Writing is not only a gift its a Mirrorcle

Mirror Writing is a completely innate ability-- at least in my experience as a mirror writer it is--I was able to mirror write fluently and naturally the very first time I attempted the artform. Over the years I have developed my mirror writing in an artful manner similar to calligraphy. I have worked at perfecting the astetic balence of the script and incorporating it into original art and apparrel designs-- (see more at www.mirror-graphics.com) I am not dyslexic however dyslexia runs in my family. I suppose I was fortunate to have gotten the intriquing ability out of the gene. I am left handed like most mirror writers. Initially I had difficulty reading my own mirror writing without the aid of a mirror--with practice I have developed the skill. The writing came naturally involving hardly a thought yet I found it took a different kind of focus to read the script. I beleive that reading mirror writing is a skill that can be developed but I am unsure if one can develope the skill to mirror write. Some people I find are able to easily read the text yet cannot mirror write themselves. Another interesting point is that my mirror writting penmanship is exactly the same as my normal script when reflected in the mirror--my signatures are identical. This 'mirrorcool' gift has amazed many an onlooker at many a party and many recipients of my 'mirrorcle' notes have delighted at the 'secret' message inside. I celebrate the artform because it invites people to look at the world a little differently--perhaps a bit backwards even-- or else they face themselves in the mirror in order to 'get the message'. User:Mirror Writer

You're corrrect that a very small fraction of people are already able to mirror write. Almost everybody, however, if they wanted to would be able to train themself to mirror write. For each character, after enough time goes by, they will be able to figure out one at a time what that character's mirror image looks like and write it, then do the same for the next character and then they will slowly pick up speed occasionally writing an uninverted character without realizing it, but the writing of uninverted characters will become rarer with practice. Mirror reading is also something almost anyone would be able to train themself to do if there existed mirror printed text for them to practice on. Text can be mirror printed as described in Printing a Document's Mirror Image. Blackbombchu (talk) 23:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Not Stupid

OK, so Da Vinci believed the church was too stupid to use a mirror to look at his writings? --Abdull 08:43, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Well... apparently people had quite some trouble deciphering his mirrored notes. At least thats what I read somewhere.

The thing is, how many people do you think would be able to decipher the little Post-It Notes you write to yourself, for example? Leonardo's writing was itself abbreviated and personalized, and it would be difficult to understand the intent of what he was trying to put across in any case due to his rather eclectic style of note-taking (from what I have read, he had a tendency to break up long words, run short words together, misspell difficult words - he never recieved the best education as far as writing was concerned - and generally just try to get as much stuff as possible down on that paper. I mean, how would you feel trying to take down the stream of consciousness of a genius like that? That's essentially what his notebooks are - records of anything at all he thought might relate to the given information and assist.

A science notbook written today has many gramical errors and short cuts. It's good writting as-long as someone in the field can understand it. [[User:ErikR] 16:44, 06 Dec 2005]

Some links to back up Da Vinci's Dyslexia

Courtesy of the internet, I found these links to back up theories of Da Vinci's Dyslexia

It's naturally debatable (isn't everything?), however, to believe Da Vinci being dyslexic isn't much of a stretch of the imagination

http://www.dyslexiaonline.com/famous/famous.htm

http://www.dyslexia.com/leonardo.htm

Add the information from ABC online

[1] The ability to mirror write is a genetic trait linked to synaesthesia.

Little Survery about Mirror Writiing

Source says 1 in 6500 has the ability of mirror writing, but I wonder if it is really that rare.....can anyone who has this ability ( without the need of tracing the text as described in the article, of course) kindly drop a line here?

137.59.227.226 (talk) 12:14, 8 April 2019 (UTC)Hello there! This is Aiman from Pakistan and I'm also a mirror writer. I've been an avid mirror writer ever since I was 12 years old. I am right handed cum ambidextrous and don't have a family history of dyslexia. I discovered this talent quite by chance and for a good 3 years I thought I was dyslexic. Also I never knew that there were so many mirror writers out there and it is a very pleasant surprise to see you all here. I'm also glad to know that I'm not neurotic for writing backwards. Hope to hear from more people over the years.

Hi! I'm also a mirror writer, although I'm right handed and not dyslexic. I do have Asperger's syndrome though. I never had to learn mirror writing, or mirror reading. I often take notes in mirror writing just to confuse people! I can mirror write with both hands, I can also write upside down and upside down mirror writing. I can write with both hands at the same time, one forwards, one backwards or both backwards. I can read text from any angle, as well as mirrored, upside down and upside down mirror writing. (Carrillo, UK.)

Hi I'm right handed although partly ambidextrous. Dyslexia runs in the family although I have no direct links. I found it extremely easy. Not only can I mirror but if you were to fold a paper into four and right your name in the bottom right corner- then mirror write the name on the left hand corner..try to fill in all squares mirror writing each square Hi, I think I am a natural 'mirror' writer. I learned to write typically, with no backwards letters and first tried writing backwards on impulse at about age 10. Since it was so easy, I thought everyone could do it if they wanted to. I mostly wrote diary entries and doodles in mirror and didn't think it was anything special. As an adult, I learned that it isn't common and I have not actually met anyone else who can do this without effort. I was also an early reader/writer and was identified as gifted/talented in school. I am a right handed female but can mirror write with either hand. My mirror writing looks just like my regular writing in reverse -- although usually slightly more slanted. I do not know of any family history of either dyslexia or mirror writing. I can also write upside down or sideways just as easily. I have always thought of mirror-writing as an inane parlor trick like wiggling your ears. I'm curious to know how common this ability might be or if it related to any other brain function but I think this would be very difficult to measure. This collection of raw data and personal experiences will not be complete enough to reach any conclusions.

Hi there,

I have a daughter who is 5 years old and she can Mirror Write. I coudn't believe it at first. I asked my husband if there was something wrong with her. But he doesn't think so. She is a very bright child. She has no trouble learning anything. She is actually a very quick learner. Do you think that Mirror Writing is a gift????

Hmmm... I didn't realize I could mirror write until I read this article and attempted it. I think I may be dislexic, but not sure as it was never diagnosed as such. One thing I noticed, is that unless I think about it, I can't tell the difference between mirror letters and non mirrored ones. I am surprised that I wouldn't have noticed this ability sooner, but honestly I never tried. I am right handed by the way. I can also write mirror letters in backwards order with my left hand. That is the only way I can write relatively neatly with my left hand. odd.

Similar to your daughter, I wrote in mirror script when I was learning to write. I had to be "taught" the correct way but still reverse letters even today. All throughout high school, I would sign yearbooks in my trade mirror script and found that some people can read them without a mirror, but never met anyone who could write in mirror script. I have always been able to read mirror script well. Today I write in mirror script when I find creative inspiration. As a very math and science minded person, mirror script unlocks my creativity and enables poetry and art to flow freely from my mind. I also have writers block when writing normally, but never when I write mirror script. My left-handed mirror script is better and easier than my normal left-handed writing. I am not fully ambidextrous even though I play some sports left-handed. My sister, however, is ambidextrous. I am not dislexic although there is a family history. My younger brother also naturally writes in mirror script. Aside from him, I have never met anyone who writes mirror script. My mother has never tried, but I suspect that she may be able to. You suggest a correlation between intelligence and mirror writing. Intelligence is nearly impossible to fully measure, but my brother and I were both labeled "gifted and talented" in school. I am interested in the study finding the ability to mirror write to be dominant X linked. As an X linked trait, more women would have the ability than men since both mothers and fathers can pass the trait to a girl and only mothers can pass it to a boy. I also wonder about the epigenomics of the heritary trait. What external factors can inhibit the trait from being expressed? In researching this topic, we must increase the population sample and survey them in more depth.

Dear Reader,

I have only discovered the fact that I can do mirror writing a few week ago.In my family no one has dyslexia as far as I know.When I told my Mother about me able to do mirror writing she said that when I went to school and learned how to write I used to write half the numbers and most of the letters in mirror writing.My Mother who is a pediatrician also told me that it is very hard to mirror write a "S",but I did it it when I was just in 1st class.When I asked her if my older sister could do mirror writing,she told "your sister is a very bright child, seeing you do mirror writing ,I have seen her trying it countless times,but she never seem to be able to do it".I am right handed ,but can do mirror writing with both my hands.But my sister is left handed and could never do it.My mother nor father seem to be able to do mirror writing.

Hi,

I knew my mom was a mirror writer at the age of five, but I didn't attempt so myself until I was fourteen. As said before, it came completely natural for me. We have no cases of dislexia in our family, but my mother and I are both left-handed. That said, neither of my cousins (who are also left-handed) can mirror write. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.235.147.51 (talk) 18:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Hay-low, I stumbled upon my ability to mirror-write cursively with my left hand at some point in my middle years. I have mixed-handedness anyway. Write, normally, right-hand, throw and bat left, bowl left, shoot a rifle right, shoot bow&arrow left, golf right, etc. I can take a marker in each hand, start in the middle of the board, and write the same thing simultaneously; right hand normally, left hand mirror. I'm not aware of either my parents or either of my sisters being able to mirror-write. I believe they are all right-handed in everything. According to most "tests", I'm essentially "whole-brained". Which drives which, I wonder??? MGvH in Colorado

Hi! I can mirror write... and more... I never taught myself its just been an inherit ability. Not only can I mirror write I can write upside down back to front, flip only the characters or flip words but not reverse word order. I've tried pretty much every flip and mix you can imagine but still have no troubles reading or writing any variation. I've had this ability as long as I could remember. And although I am no dyslexic I was never able to get letters the right way as a child, occasionally I still to this day (Age: 17) mix up completely unrelated characters, (eg: r, f and 4 are completely interchangeable, m's occasionally gain extra humps etc.), and to this day confuse my lefts and rights. I have little family history of dyslexia, although I think its in there somewhere, there is a history of colour blindness... thats about it. And I have trouble with sharp contrast (but only when reading from an angle?) and I can't read once text is beyond a certain size at a distance, although my vision is 100% things just lose form. I'm right handed, apparently an odd one out in this case? And developed reading ability strong and early in life. (Although apparently I was an extremely poor reader at a young then in the space of under a year went from "This is Tom" style books to full novels.) I have a strong mathematical ability and I was labelled gifted at a young and have recorded high results under a broad degree of aptitude tests. I'd really like to know a bit more about this and what could possibly be going on in my head... what a chaotic place it is. So if this has provoked interest in anyone or if you feel you can shed some light on my situation, or even if you just feel like you know what I'm on about, drop me an email at: moc.evil@tsinori-eht :P. Oh thats another thing! My brother has the ability to spell and say long words and sentences backwards both phonetically and spellingly? (is there a word for that) I've found I have this ability too but never bothered developing it much. Also my grandmother has claimed to be able to do this as well. And I'm a shocking speller. Okay I think I'm done. - Tim Hope (17, Australia) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.122.128 (talk) 11:57, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I am 29 years old and have been able to do this since i was a kid. Also, I am right handed. I can do this with either hand, and my left-handed writing is better when I write backwards than when I write regularly. No one else in my family can do this, and there is no family history of dyslexia. I am also talented at deciphering people's personal codes, and have one of my own that I write personal things in (like journals and such). Not sure how common this is, as I have never met anyone else with any of these abilities. I too am gifted at mathematics, grammar and spelling. - Vanessa Grant (29, Maryland, USA)

I'm a 41 year old female. Today I was reading an article in the newspaper about Da Vinci's codex being written in mirror scripts. Never having heard of such a thing, I tried it by just writing in the air, and to my amazement I could not only do it with ease, but it is even more natural than writing normally. So I grabbed a pen and paper and started writing, right to left, in mirror. I'm a lefty, and the right-to-left action is just so much more natural. I realized I could also write with both hands, right hand in mirror and left hand normally, and meet in the middle. Upon further reading I found out there is a connection between mirror-writing and synaesthesia, which I already know I have. This is a crossing of the senses, literally. I "feel" shapes with my body, and "taste" experiences. What an amazing day, to find out something new about myself at 41 is not what I expected! (Kelly, 41, Canada.)

I am a 15 year old male. I recently taught myself how to mirror-write out of sheer boredom. I thought it was completely natural to do this, but it turns out that some of my friends cannot even do this in the smallest bit. Is this an inherited ability? I am right-handed. I am able to print, write in cursive, and recreate my signature in mirror writing. All members of my closed family are right-handed except my dad. He is very smart. He'd never heard of mirror-writing until I showed him, and soon enough we were both at the same level. I can write in mirror image quicker and more naturally than I can in a more regular ways. I am only barely starting to be able to read it without a mirror on-hand, though. I never showed this ability as a younger kid. What does this mean about me, with this given information? I've let my mind wander sometimes while I'm writing, and then find myself writing in mirror image when not in full-focus. Is s this skill useful, is there a community of people with this ability, and are there tricks to being able focus quickly upon this? (Alex, 15, California, USA)

I am a 16 year old male. I have been able to mirror write since the 2nd grade, when my art teacher had all the students attempt to write our names with both hands simultaneously. As it turned out, I was really good at it. After playing around for a few weeks, I was able to write backwards fluidly. I have a bit of difficulty mirror writing in cursive, but I can also easily write upside down, and even write upside down mirrored (this takes me longer to do though). I am left handed, but my family is a mix of both right and left handed writers. This being said, I can also write with my right hand, although not as well. Nobody else in my family can mirror write. This being said, I feel like they could if they tried, but they never really though about trying it. Reading isn't too hard, but it takes me longer to read versus write. My mirror writing had sped up to the point that am able to take mirrored notes in a science class. In my opinion, anybody could lean how to mirror write to some extent, but it comes easier to some people. (Will, 16, Georgia, USA)

I am a 26 year old female. As a child I never had any problems in school or learning difficulties, actually I learn pretty fast! I heard that most mirror writers are left handed,I am for the most part ambidextrous, however, I would consider myself right handed. I think I was always able to mirror write but I also thought it was normal until no one else in my family or friends could do it! I can also write with both hands at the same time, one forwards, one backwards. It's pretty cool knowing that only a few percent can actually do this :) (Milissa Ragou, Paderborn, Germany.)

Hi everyone,

I like to share my experience. I'm from India. I was 18 years old girl. I started to practice in left hand at the age of 15 on the advice of my father. I trained myself to be ambidextrous. When I started to train my non dominant hand, I felt uneasy. But I trained it. A month ago, I just stopped to control my left one and started to write at its way. At the moment I found that my left one is very easier to do mirror writing. I can do mirror writing in two languages.The notable thing is that in my blood relatives or distant ones are not affected by any kind of learning disabilities and mental disabilities and there are no natural lefties among my relatives. (Hemalatha Baskaran, Chennai, Tamilnadu, India.)

Mirror writing

17:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)Rept I'm right-handed, but ambidextrous in many ways. I mirror write easily and naturally with my left hand, but can't read it easily. I have difficulty mirror writing with my right hand, and it's even harder to write, going left to right with my left hand. I'm not sure what this indicates about left-right brain orientation, but I've done it all my life. I have never had difficulty reading, but do have trouble with left-right orientation for things such as manual transmissions in cars or piano playing. Is this common to anyone else?

hi,

I'm basically a mechanical engineering student i use to write my name in mirror image for past 2 years i just tried to write all my notes in mirror image it worked out and i'm writing and i can able to read that very clearly and my speed of writting is equal to my usual writing. iam doing all my problems in mirror image only. Basically i'm a right handed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.29.243 (talk) 11:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC) 

i can mirrow write too! i used to wrtie upside down but now mirror writing come very easy to me

i can't mirror write, but kudos to those who can(i tied, i wrote miserably...) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.62.222.166 (talk) 04:53, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

hey, i have been able to mirror write for years now and I'm currently 15. i have never been able to find anyone else that can naturally. i am also ambidextrous but prefer writing right handed. apparently right handed mirror writing is very rare. i would love to know more about it. i can write anything backwards, but can also write: right and left handed at the same time, one going forwards, one going backwards. Anyone know anyone who can do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.145.180.62 (talk) 11:43, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I am a mirror writer

Hi I am a left-handed mirror writer. While my younger brother and I are both left handed, our parents are both right-handed, I am the only mirror writer. When I was being taught how ot write I would write things correctly but in the mirror writing form. I had to be taught how to write normal, or so others could read it. I am now twenty-three and still to this day if I do not sit and think about how I am writing I will write in mirror form.

hi I'm shamvi and i mirror write all the time..sometimes i send notes to my friend mirror writing with dark ink and they'll flip the page to read it. I tried it out after this guy did it on tv, and i was like what's so hard in that? I have not found anyone who can mirror write fast so far but i don't believe it's rare.

Hello, I'm Nino from Georgia. I can use both hands, with the right one I write normally but with the left one I'm a mirror wrighter. That's a bit strange. I didn't learn it, it's somehowe natural. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.137.138.245 (talk) 21:41, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Some answers

1.Mirror writing is not a gift. It is a skill.
I found out that my grandma was ambidextrous. So maybe it is inherited but still one hast to start at some point doing.

2.Writing with left hand from right to left is much easier and faster.

3."This is explainable by the fact that it is easier to pull a quill pen than to push it; by using mirror-writing, the left-handed writer is able to pull the pen from right to left and also avoid smudging what has just been written." it's qoute frome page about da vinci in wikipedia and i think it should be included in this page.

I'm 22 and i recently started to mirror write. I wanted to be like da vinci. The more i write the more i think it is usefull skill
If i write with letter in all caps, kind of machine writing, then i can read myself. When i write handwriting style then i don't but i think i can overcome that. Sometimes(20% or more) i can't read what i wrote with right hand. i have unreadable style :) ).

So i think scientists theories: that mirror writing is inherited and that davinci mirror write to keep notes secret, are false. Any coments?

PS.I think that this kind of writing should be learned in schools. Why? becouse it can help develope both hemispheres, and that can lead to more creativity.
PS.2. Writing for me is so slow, i recently preffer to make a voice notes about ideas(on my pc), it is much faster.
PS.3.I'm probably dyslexic (doctor said so)
ChrisBatory 16:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I just relised today that i can mirror write and i think its pretty cool. I'm amazed that its as rare as 1 in 6500 people and i intent to do a "mini investigation" to see how common among my friends it really is. I'd like to think that it is very rare although not sure that it is. I personally, am right handed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.233.190.7 (talk) 22:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Some questions; (little of topic but please leave this or suggest other page that this input would be useful,)
Did i mirror write becouse i wanted to, or i wanted to mirror write becouse i inherited gen? Fact is that i started to think about mirror writing when i read book about da vinci, but why i reached for book about davinci? Uhh I think its more related to genius page. ChrisBatory 16:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Chris, well it all depends really. Did you find this ability natural? Or did you have to work for it, ie: I tried writing backwards and found I could do it without thought as well as I could write forwards. This implies some kind of natural or genetic ability, possibly to do with language centers etc. in the brain. However if you had to work at developing the ability then I would say it most certainly not inherited... just speculation of course. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.122.128 (talk) 06:15, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Example?

I think the Vitruvian Man is a rather poor example and does not serve a practical, informative, encyclopedic purpose. In my opinion it should be replaced with an example of mirror compared to the same example in standard writing, computer-made or not. -Kame2000 15:43, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

an error ?

Research suggests that the ability of mirror writing is probably inherited and caused by '''a typical''' language organisation in the brain [1]. Approximately 1 in 6500 people in the population inherited the ability of mirror writing and half of their children also inherited the ability. There are more left-handed mirror writers than right-handed ones, probably because left-handed people tend to have '''atypical''' language centres in their brain.

there a contradaction between the first and the last sentence, or am I wrong ?

I think the first sentence need to be corrected I'll do it soon unless someone thinks otherwise.ErnestC 00:29, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

1 in 6500

if that digit was calculated as stated on this page (there a link to that page on the article page):

[2]

then I think it should be added in the article that the digit must be seen a at least rough approximation for the readership is already a vague digit and the method seems to consider any person able to read the fable in less than a minutes will respond (what is not sure at all).

maybe we could add a sentence like "this digit is an maybe not so precise evaluation" and a note with a link to the page where the evaluation method is explained ?ErnestC 00:53, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

1 in 6500; & I've just participated in a mirror-writing study

I have seen those numbers repeated all over the web, as well as in a scientific article. Based on another article I found on the web, the Australian survey on which the ratio (1 mirror writer per 6500) is based should be considered quite suspect, in my opinion. An advertisement asking mirror writers to come forward and be tested was placed in a newspaper. From the people who came forward, only the real mirror writers were culled out, and compared to the circulation figures of the newspaper. This is preposterous! It presumes that every subscriber reads every word in the paper, and would be inclined to participate if he or she was a mirror writer. Conversely, it also doesn't account for two or three readers per subscription. The conclusion based on such shaky data is, in my opinion, wholly unreliable. Since it's the only survey ever done with respect to incidence of mirror writing in the population, this ratio is being bandied about as if it's fact. Certainly, the survey ought to be quoted as the source of the numbers, and perhaps a note questioning the validity of it should be added.

Also, in Aug. of 2007, I was studied, along with another mirror writer, by a professor/research scientist who is studying the brain, cognition, and aspects of orientation. The other mirror writer wrote with the left hand; I, however, am a right-handed mirror writer. I have not been able to determine whether this is a gift or the result of brain damage, however, studies seem to imply that some people with certain neurological damage are mirror writers, and other people just do so deliberately. Why a certain segment of the population can do it, while most can't, is not known.

I first attempted it in junior high school, wanting to create a sort of cipher for passing notes to my friends. With great enthusiasm, I mirror-wrote to several people with this great idea, and was surprised and discouraged by the fact that I did not receive back any notes in kind. I attempted this again in high school, to no avail. For me, it had come easily the first time I tried it, and I assumed that everyone else could do the same. Until I learned it was rare (which is rather recently -- decades after the school debacle), I felt that I had merely been snubbed by my friends, who might have thought it stupid or childish. No one had ever given me an explanation for not responding.

Certainly this is a topic worth exploring and continued scientific study. What we learn from mirror writers may shed light on other aspects of brain function. --Catwoman07076 01:58, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I made a change about the 1 in 6500 claimErnestC 15:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Add redirect?

I think some redirects should be added. I searched for the page under "mirror-writing" (without the quotation marks, and it didn't go straight to the page, but did find it in the search results. I would add it myself, but don't know how to.

Any other suggestions for article name redirects?

WikiReaderer 23:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I've just added that one. See Wikipedia:Redirect for information about redirects. Graham87 13:20, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

It Just Came Natural

At about the age of 10 I discovered I could not only write mirrored, but cursive mirrored. Punctuation, numbers, capitals and lower-case inclusive. I had never tried before and out of boredom I just started doing it. No practice. It came as natural as writing normal and seemingly stemmed from nowhere.

As the Wiki article suggests I am the stero-typical left-hand dominated mirror writer, and I believe my mother; who is also left-handed can also do it, again backing the article by Wiki that it's an inherent ability.

I'm not lysdexic (Oh the humour... My sides... Stop it) nor is there any history of it in my family. I would also believe the 1 in 6500 stastic as I'm now 26 and am yet to meet anyone that can do it or read it easily.

I too am ambidextrous. I can write normal and mirrored with both hands and again... never with any practice. My right-handed writing is however poor quality compared to that of my left which is exceptionally neat. I attribute that to the anchoring and dragging of my hands as I write though, as I can write quite neat with any hand in any way if using a whiteboard or chalkboard where your hand needn't be anchored and does not suffer from the starting and stopping of drag that occurs with say, a pen and paper.

history is it only one?

There is one notable example. What was other historical 'not notable'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.16.176.166 (talk) 03:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Unintentional mirror writing

Mirror writing shows up unintentionally when people are editing images that include orthographies they don't know, and they flip or rotate the image for design purposes. See, for example,

• Mair, Victor (5 June 2009). "Massachusetts is red(-faced)". Language Log. Retrieved 20 July 2009.

• and the first two images here

I don't know if anyone else has examples of this, but if there are enough (or if this sort of stuff is mentioned in general in any reliable sources) would it be worthwhile to add a sentence or two to the article? rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 12:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Unintentional mirroring

Unintentional mirroring is sourced in inattention and/or unfamiliarity with the subject. This can be noticed fairly regularly when one studies images and film. I don't think that people can unintentionally mirror write with ease, unless they possess an unusually strong natural inclination.Ineuw (talk) 14:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

What does "to do mirror writing" mean?

The article talks about "the ability to do mirror writing". Having read parts of the discussion I think I understand that "to do mirror writing" means something like "to write in mirror style as naturally as one writes in regular style without having ever practised this particular skill". I am not confident enough in my understanding to actually go and edit the article myself, but, for the benefit of other readers, I suggest someone change the wording in order to make it clearer, as it is really unclear at the moment. 188.169.229.30 (talk) 00:09, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

By some strange coincidence, I came here to make exactly the same point. The whole paragraph starting "Research suggests that the ability to do mirror writing..." is very confusing because it is quite obvious that anyone with normal abilities can teach themselves to do this if they practice enough. In fact, I did many years ago, despite having no particular natural aptitude, although I have largely forgotten the skill now. Presumably the article is talking about some special facility to do it without effort, having learned only the standard way of writing, but this is never even mentioned, let alone defined. 86.146.108.51 (talk) 02:59, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Ditto -- some years ago I taught myself to do this, for the purpose of improving labeling on tin-cure RTV silicone molds. One cannot really write directly onto cured silicone, so one is left to primitive labeling methods, such as carving roman numerals into the side of the cured mold with an X-Acto knife. However, if you use a marker to write backwards on the mold box (I found that a blue Sharpie works best), the ink is absorbed into the rubber as it cures, producing a label which generally lasts (it can fade somewhat with time) until the mold is no longer viable. I did not find the skill to be particularly difficult to learn, and interestingly, found that various aspects of my normal penmanship were also present in my backward writing, when it was then observed in forward direction on cured molds. John Cocktosten (talk) 23:53, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Mirror Writer plus more?

I am a mirror writer and I also have the ability (or weird adaption) to move in mirror motions. By this I mean that when I move one side the other side typically does the alternate thing. Weird, yes. Strange, yes. Does anyone experience the same thing? In every day activities I experience this mirror motion and it's funny when people make fun of; when they see my left hand quivering while I'm writing with my right hand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.249.84.113 (talk) 05:50, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Right Handed Mirror Writer

I can write with both hands at the same time, one forward while the other one is a mirror image of the other. I am for the most part ambidextrous. However, I would consider myself right handed. Most of the posts I have read the mirror writers are left handed. I didn't realize most people could not mirror write. I came across my ability when I was bored and was amazed when I wrote forward with my left hand, backwards with my right hand at the same time creating an instant mirror image of whatever I was writing with my left hand. I would love to find more people like this, or find out about the cognitive function of our brain versus those who do not have the ability.

Janelle♠♠♠♠ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.59.48.4 (talk) 21:09, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Janelle! I also am right handed, ambidextrous and a mirror writer :) I can also write backwards and forwards at the same time. nice to know I am not the only one :D (Milissa Ragou)

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Pausing when writing especially with numbers.

I could read and write before I went to school in England in the late 1960's but I wrote from right to left so letters mirror. I remember using both hands to write but being encouraged towards my right hand. The main problem is my name contains three s's and I just cannot 'visualise' how to write the right way round so I have always written my s's starting at the bottom of the curve then up as a way of stopping me writing s's backwards. p's and q's d's and b's mean I have to stop and think as the starting at the bottom trick doesn't work, would be interested in how this relates to other experience and research. 92.236.116.55 (talk) 22:50, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello! I am also right handed and can write mirror. I can also write mirror with my left hand but not as well. I didn't realize I could write backwards and forwards with both hands at the same time until I tried it. Super cool! Lol maybe there is something wrong with me... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ncaughneeto (talk • contribs) 05:09, 17 May 2018 (UTC)