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Latest comment: 17 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion
Where is in the "KDU-ČSL ukončila jednání s ČSSD, Kalousek rezignuje" article mentioned that it was against their promises. Although it is a well known fact non of referenced articles says something about KDU's promises before election. --Jan Smolik 18:45, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
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In the first: I dont understand, why you want reference preferencialy for well known fact?
In the second: This informations are in 3th section Dlouholetý hlasitý kritik spolupráce s KSČM Kalousek tím vyvolal bouři nevole ve vlastní straně. and in 6th section Členové KDU-ČSL se podle něj svým tlakem na vedení strany zasloužili o to, že dodrží předvolební slib nepodílet se na vládě s komunisty. This informations are too in article 1: whole 2nd section Vedení strany přitom dříve tvrdilo, že se na takové vládě nebude podílet. "Některým lidem bychom se nemohli podívat do očí," řekl dnes ČTK předseda brněnské organizace Jan Holík. Podle něj sice strana je pod tlakem hrozby, že se ODS a ČSSD dohodne na změně volebního stranu, což existenci KDU-ČSL ohrozí. "Pokud ale připustíme spolupráci na vládě podporované komunisty o všechny naše voliče stejně přijdeme," řekl Holík. Podle něj se již ozývají první lidé, kteří chtějí stranu opustit., and 7th section Jsou věci, které se nedělají snad ani v politice. Kampaň byla celá postavená na tom, že my jsme ta hráz proti tomu, aby se komunisté dostali k moci. Máme ve straně lidi, kteří byli za minulého režimu perzekuováni," podotkl Plawny. Dodal, že pokud se situace nezmění, hrozí, že havířovská KDU-ČSL stáhne svou kandidátku do komunálních voleb.... I think, this is very richly referenced fact. :-) Cinik 20:36, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
The reason why I want reference is because encyclopedia article needs them. End especially article about living person when statements are negative. Per policy unsourced negative statements in biographies of living persons can be deleted immediately. I do not want to delete it, but if article is to get to a higher level and potentialy to featured status it will finally need citations for everything.
The first misunderstanding was in the fact that you referenced the other article. Anyway the sentences you quote admit only indirectly that promises were broken. "Mr. XYZ said: we broke our promises.! While our article states it as a fact. Anyone else can say: we never actually promised this we only said that blah blah blah and can have different interpretation. Cleaner way would be to reference what actually the party promised. --Jan Smolik 23:32, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
OK, here is article on website of party. Kalousek declares: I broke pre-elect promises.... We newer actually promised is sentence, which no christian democrat used in this case, because it is nonsense. Hard anti-communism is one from principal item on the agenda KDU-ČSL. F. e. here is promis explicitly expressed, if you search this. My english is not good, give it in article, please! Cinik 08:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)Reply
