Talk:Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference
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School type/religious affiliation
editThe religious affiliation or designation as "non-sectarian" is not so clear cut. For example, Duke University describes its ties with Methodism as "formal, on-going, and symbolic" [1] while Wake Forest maintains "a dedication to the values rooted in its Baptist heritage" [2]. Both schools can be considered "non-sectarian" in that they are no longer under the direct auspices of their founding religious organizations. Likewise, Boston College maintains its Jesuit identity in spite of the fact that it severed its formal ties with the Jesuit Order (and thereby the Catholic Church) in the 1960s when it was independently incorporated under a lay board of trustees. Unlike the Catholic University of America, which is under the direct auspices of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, or the University of Notre Dame, which is governed by "fellows" who must be priests of the Congregation of Holy Cross, The Trustees of Boston College (BC's governing body) operate independent of any religious jurisdiction. This arrangement is probably similar to that at Duke or Wake Forest, except that the BC trustees have voluntarily chosen to elect members of the founding religious organization to the presidency (though they are not required to do so). In fact, similar arrangements exist at other Jesuit colleges and universities, where both women and non-clerics have been elected to presidency (most recently at Georgetown). All of this is to say that I think the nature of a school's religious affiliation is beyond the scope of this article, and that "public" or "private" suffice in the context of the members table.--24.63.125.78 10:10, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- 24.63.125.78 has coppied and pasted this on almost every college conference discussion board. Please refer to Talk:Atlantic Coast Conference so we can keep all the discussion in one place. Thanks. -- Masonpatriot
Winston-Salem State
editSince when did they join the MEAC? I've found absolutely nothing anywhere regarding them moving up. --fuzzy510 06:21, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Winston Salem State Has Been Offically Voted Into The MEAC and will have a Full MEAC Schedule in the 2007-2008 Season.
Logos
editThere is a discussion to clarify our policy/guideline on the use of sports team logos. Please see Wikipedia_talk:Logos#Clarification_on_use_of_sports_team_logos if you wish to participate in the discussion. Johntex\talk 16:41, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
UCF
editI've removed the Central Florida references here again, after having tried to contact the user who inserted them several days ago with no response. Unfortunately, I'm forced to try and prove a negative here, and I can only do that by demonstrating an absence of source. So, in that vein, four things:
- UCF's web site's football history page does not reference having been a member of the conference, despite a somewhat detailed timeline of the program's history.
- The MEAC's website, in listing its historical membership, does not include UCF.
- The annual NCAA Official Football Records Books for the years in question have printed standings for all conferences in all divisions; Central Florida is, in each of the years in question, listed as "Division I-AA Independent." Further, the books list the annual schedules and results; the only MEAC team Central Florida played during those years was an annual game against Bethune-Cookman. When a team is in a conference, it does not just play one game a year against another conference member.
- I've been unable to uncover any source whatsoever to verify the claim that UCF was in the MEAC; google searches on "Central Florida" or "UCF" in conjunction with "Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference" or "MEAC" come up with nothing.
Especially insofar as all evidence suggests the assertion is false, if there is no verifiable source backing the assertion, please don't put it back in. Thanks. JFMorse 20:27, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:NewMEACLogo.png
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Copyright violation
editSadly the history section was an almost exact copy of this page of the MEAC Official Website, so has been removed. —Yellowspacehopper (talk) 02:08, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
About Winston-Salem State University...
editWhen exactly do they start a full conference schedule in football and basketball? On the MEAC site, they don't include Winston-Salem on the list of their 2008 football standings, nor do they do so for the 2008-2009 basketball standings... I guess Winston-Salem might start off in the MEAC in baseball of this season, but when exactly will they be part of the conference for football and basketball? (And any other sport that isn't part of the standings list on the MEAC site?)
Edit: Also, ESPN (And a lot of other sports sites...) has listed Winston-Salem as being independent in both football and basketball, so it doesn't seem like Winston-Salem is part of the MEAC for those sports yet...
Proposal to make timelines more consistent
editI noticed that conferences in List of NCAA conferences have articles, usually including a membership timeline. While some of the decisions made for each conference make some sense, there is a wide variety of styles for the various timelines, particularly involving color choices, but also other matters of style that could be more consistent.
for example, a school with a yellow bar means:
- An associate member in one sport (if part of the BE)
- A former member of the conference (in the SEC)
- A future member of the conference (in the SEC and Big West)
- A football only member (in the Sun Belt)
- A team that has moved to another conference (in the WAC, NEC)
- A full member of the Big Sky
Some graphs have captions, some do not, and none are centered.
To see the variety of styles, review Current conference timelines
I think it would be worth discussing how best to provide some measure of consistency, recognizing that there may be legitimate reasons for some differences from a standard presentation (for example, some conferences show the name of the new conference for former members. In some cases, this makes sense, in other, it may not.)
I've produced a draft of how the timelines would look with some consistency added. Please see Draft proposal of conference timelines.
I propose a discussion to see if there is consensus on improving the consistency.
Because it would not be practical to have this discussion on each and every conference talk page, I suggest centralizing this discussion at the Talk page of Project College football SPhilbrick(Talk) 02:17, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Standardize facility sections
editSee the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College baseball#Standardize conference pages' facility sections.
Discussion about overview maps for US collegiate athletic conferences
editA discussion on the Project College Football talk page has been created to discuss the proper format of the overview maps that are used for the US collegiate athletic conference pages.
If you're interested, please join the discussion here: Athletic conference overview maps and their lack of consistency. Mdak06 (talk) 23:53, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
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