Talk:Mexican Repatriation/Archive 1

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It appears that unlike some other deportation operations, the Depression-era repatriations were not part of an officially-titled program. Neither were they part of a movement in the sense of "popular", "social", or "political" movement. So the title "Repatriation Movement" is inaccurate. In the absence of an official title, it should probably be moved to United States Depression-era repatriations or something like that.--Rockero 16:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

• Hmm... what about 1930s Mexican American repatriation?--Pharos 21:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
  • How about Mexican repatriation from the United States, 1931-1934?--Rockero 04:07, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

• • How about mass deportation of Mexican American citizens through the Mexican Repatriation program? If the article cites numerous sources that support this definition. Mexican Americans are and were not Mexicans.Mexican repatriation from the United States, 1931-1934?-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.51.213.131 (talk) 08:26, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

• • • This wasn't really a distinct "1931-1934" event. The figure in the first sentence is just a measure of the height of it; it extended some time before and after I'm sure..--Pharos 04:24, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

My sources say 1931-1934.--Rockero 04:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

What sources are those?--Pharos 04:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

The Ruiz text cited in the article. Of course, there is always the bigger picture, and it is more than likely that there was pressure on Mexicans to repatriate throughout the Depression and even afterwards. One of the books cited in one of the EL articles is called Abraham Hoffman, Unwanted Mexican Americans in the Great Depression: Repatriation Pressures, 1929-1939, but I haven't read it. Ruiz says that the forced deportations had died down by 1934, though.--Rockero 06:36, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Different sources give different dates. See for example the Handbook of Texas. My point is really that the event wasn't that clearly defined in time. I've been looking around, and it seems the term "Mexican Repatriation", often capitalized, is pretty commonly used (see google), so perhaps that might work. BTW, see this Apology Act for the 1930s Mexican Repatriation Program.--Pharos 09:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Wow, that should definitely be mentioned in the article. Mexican Repatriation seems like a fine title to me.--Rockero 15:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

• Repatriation isn't the right word. A person who was never a citizen cannot be repatriated. Thus, all the US citizens who were deported were not repatriated to Mexico, they were expelled. And as the majority of those expelled were Americans (1.2 mil out of 2 mil), expulsion or illegal deportation would be more accurate. Harrylovesjeni65 (talk) 19:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

• This article should really get more in depth about the main causes of the Mexican Repatriation. More introducing details are needed and A section of the article should be based on the question of why it happened more exactly. As a reader of the article I couldn't follow and understand the main reason to deport all the Mexican population during that time. --NJIT_HUM - Shane D

The deported individuals of Mexican ethnicity who were American citizens were mostly citizens under the Horace Gray opinion of the Wong Kim Ark decision. They were deported with their parents who were illegal immigrants. The policy of deporting all children of illegal immigrant parents with them is international standard practice. 98.110.171.75 (talk) 00:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the U.S. follows the "International Standard Practice" of deporting all children of illegal immigrant parents because of the 14th amendment which gives citizenship to all persons born on U.S. soil. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Polarbrian (talk • contribs) 07:13, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the U.S. follows the "International Standard Practice" of deporting all children of illegal immigrant parents because of the 14th amendment which gives citizenship to all persons born on U.S. soil. Polarbrian (talk) 07:29, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

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Sources

Since we'll probably violate the 3RVV rule at some point.

Look, I have no idea how many Mexicans were repatriated and what their legal status was and I don't care what the numbers are. Right now our only source is a piece of legislation. I think it is more than fair to mark numbers put forth by politicians that come with no academic citations as being potentially unreliable. - Schrandit (talk) 19:45, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

In addition to the bill, we also have the USA Today article. --Ramsey2006 (talk) 19:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

But the source in the USA Today article giving the 2 million figure is a quote from the State Senator who proposed the bill. The text of the article says maybe as many as 400,000 but again, where did they get those numbers? - Schrandit (talk) 20:04, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Mexican Repatriation

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Mexican Repatriation's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Johnson":

• From California Gold Rush: Susan Lee Johnson, Roaring Camp: The social world of the California Gold Rush. (2000), pp. 164–168.
• From Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965: "Remarks at the Signing of the Immigration Bill, Liberty Island, New York". October 3, 1965. Retrieved January 1, 2012.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 07:48, 5 October 2013 (UTC)