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editI removed de [citation needed] tag on the HMMWV, because in the # HMMWV page you can see México as a current Operator, and because i have see them many time in the Mazatlan navy base.
Why dont they mention the compact frigates or gunboats?
editThere are allot of gunboats in the maxican navy and some of them have the typicall armament of a frigate.They are worth mentioning.So I have put a list of the gunboats and their names and class B1412 20:25, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Is it true what they are saying about the helicopter carriers
editwebsites and places keep on saying that the uss ogden and the uss cleveland were given to mexico.Is this true B1412 20:25, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
- That information is incorrect.BatteryIncluded (talk) 03:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Missiles
editMexico has finally built its own missiles for it ships it should be mentioned.
- As of May 2008, the mexican misile project is unfinished. References in the main article.
Official Name
editIsn't the official name "Armada de México"? Secretaria de Marina would be the official name of the government department. Similarly, the United States Navy is the organization which is operated by the Department of the Navy. See this Jornada article discussing naval construction plans from 12/10/07: http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2007/12/10/index.php?section=politica&article=019n1pol&partner=rss. glasperlenspiel (talk) 14:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Official Name is "Secretaría de Marina - Armada de México" http://www.semar.gob.mx/sitio_2/ Arthur Water (talk) 21:41, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
- Mexican Navy is a perfectly good translation for English Wikipedia.. Secretaria de Marina is the the government department, the bureaucrats handling the Mexican Navy. Cheers,
WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008
editArticle reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 20:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Upgrade and Update
editI would like to upgrade and kinda modernize the navy section which is this, obviously. i will use updated information from the navys website and other updated resources.Homan05
- Go for it. I'll stand by for assistance.BatteryIncluded (talk) 03:54, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- thank you thank you =), i still wanna add a little more info on the mexican naval forces of the gulf and pacific, maybe i can make separate articles for them.Homan05
Marina, Marines, etc
editThe 3 oficial components of the Armada de Mexico are:
- Flota Naval
- Flota Aerea
- Infanteria de Marina
This last one can be translated in several ways, and originate a discussion equivalent to "potayto potatoe." I suggest we focus instead in the escence of the Armada de Mexico and its functions. By the way, it would be useful to mention its leading role in the war on drugs.BatteryIncluded (talk) 14:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm i agree, but it will take some time to find the right source of information for that one@war on drugs. i kinda disagree, on that@equivalent to "Potayto potatoe" but no matter..as long as everybody understands what that section is about.Homan05
- The right source? Other than Calderon spending 7 billion USD so far, in the war of drugs..... It is no secret the Mexican Military has taken the leading role in the Mexican Drug War. Saludos, BatteryIncluded (talk) 23:03, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Disculpe, pero u did say specificly the role of the Armada de Mexico in the war on drugs, thought u meant that...and yes i know it is no secret about the 7 billion in the WOD. Homan05 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.34.44.19 (talk) 20:31, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
New Textron MLB boats
editI am not sure where to include this. Textron published that a $24 million deal was just signed with the Nexican Navy for the purchase of six Textron Motor life boats (MLB): Reuters news
- hmmm...ill include if u want..ill summarize..Homan05
- I found this other article that mentions Textron Marine & Land Systems intending to build 6 life boats for the Mexican Navy: azom.com Ocelotl10293 (talk) 07:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
- Unless they are new ones, they were received a few months ago. Cheers, BatteryIncluded (talk) 16:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC) (Edited to add: the article you cite is from July 18th, 2008. SO yes, these boats have been received. Cheers. BatteryIncluded (talk) 22:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Are the Sierra or Durango class gunboats stealthy
editThese ships look like many other ships that resemble stealth ships.Villagomians (talk) 01:37, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- probably not ..they just look stealthy i guess. .Homan05
Naval History
editThis article doesnt say anything about mexico's naval battles or when the armada was instituted.It also doesnt say anything about old historical ships either.Also mexico was the first country to use airplane against ship in the battle of Topolobampo in 1914.I have put a list and what war or time it accured on the article.Villagomians (talk) 14:16, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
- That is a good start. I'd like to keep working with you on that section and especially: include the dates of these wars. I wonder if there is any image in Wikipedia or Commons of a Mexican ship from the 1800s. Could we obtain and load one? - BatteryIncluded (talk) 18:46, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm it would be difficult but you can get more info or piks if you go to yahoo.com.mx but if you guys can type in spanish go ahead. (User talk:Homan05)
- I found some photos but they are drawings or portraits not actual pictures,as cameras werent invented then.Do most of the are from here http://www.semar.gob.mx/historia/barcos.htm Also for important people and some good information http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.semar.gob.mx%2F&sl=es&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 its already in english.Villagomians (talk) 00:50, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- The School ship Cuahutemoc should stay in the historical ships as its not a combat ship and it hasnt taken part in any war.Villagomians (talk) 22:59, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Unsourced Info
editsomebody has typed in alot of weapons that mexico probably doesnt have or maybe does have but with no source to back it up. (User talk:Homan05) —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Sukhoi Su-27
editI'm surprised there's no mention of the Sukhoi Su-27 aircraft, which are operated by the Aviación de la Armada de Mexico (Air Arm of the Mexican Navy). There's a picture at Mexico#Military and numerous information sources which can easily be Googled. Cabrasucker (talk) 19:00, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hello. A few years ago, some Sukhoy jets were officially requested by the military and the Mexican Congress (or Senate?) rejected the funds to purchase Sukhoy jet fighters for the Mexican Navy. Mexico never placed the order and certainly never received them. AT this time, there is certainly no official plans to purchase any fighter jets, new or used. A Google search would reveal this, especially if one ignores the forums. I deleted the image of such aircraft from the article you mentioned. Thank you. Cheers, BatteryIncluded (talk) 02:30, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Mexico did have plans for SEMAR to purchase several Su-27s in 2004-2005 but the funding for the procurement curiously lined the pockets of many Mexican politicians and Navy officials. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.181.40.156 (talk) 01:02, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Redaction
editI'd like to see this information redacted to reflect less of a list of equipment and more like a readable article. My opinion... -BatteryIncluded (talk) 10:11, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
Upgrade on Mexican navy shipyards article
editive added a new article about the shipyards of the mexican navy, titled Secretary of The Navy Shipyards. If anybody has any detailed or Pictures of the yards please by all means add them. As for details, please to remember to add a reference. thank you .Homan05
Vehicle Inventory
edit- Why was the vehicle inventory removed? Is there any way someone could bring it back? Ocelotl10293 (talk) 02:30, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
- I brought back the weapons and vehicle inventory list. Ocelotl10293 (talk) 23:34, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Despite of coming straight from the SEMAR webpage, the Order of Battle of the Naval Infantry Corps was out of date, on page 21 of the Informe 2009 is given the current organization:
http://www.semar.gob.mx/transparencia/informes_labores/3_informe_labores.pdf
So refrain from changing the updated overview. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.151.51.25 (talk) 19:51, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
- Not done, as All your points above are fantasy. Thanks, BatteryIncluded (talk) 13:46, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
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Oliver Hazard Perry boats
editAlthough I have heard of rumors of Mexico acquiring some ex-USN OHP frigates, it's been awhile since the rumors began and it's been said that the US Navy would remove all the weapons systems prior to the sale. I can understand the deletion of the security-sensitive Tomahawk Cruise Missiles but all weapons?? That would make it seem pointless to purchase said vessels. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.68.207.144 (talk) 18:49, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Someone keeps adding the OHP boats Curts and McClusky to the Mexican Navy inventory and to the OHP-class page of wiki. The information that they were transferred is JUST A RUMOR, spread by defense enthusiast sites and blogs. It is NOT real. The McClusky has yet to even decommission. The Curts is undergoing refurbishment in the USA for either storage or sale to a foreign Navy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.181.40.156 (talk) 00:22, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
wrong colors in the navy crest
editThe black green with and red colors are representative of the army, not the navy, I would really appreciate if somebody could get rid of it.
The crest is accurate though.
www.semar.gob.mx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:A:1980:1E5:9005:E34:1F2D:D2C1 (talk) 16:25, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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A question about the Allende\Knox class ships Why are they still listed as active? I supposed they are still in reserve until either scrapping or sinking as artificial reefs (as F212 was) but they certainly shouldn't be counted as active units of the navy. - just an observation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:3D09:77F:7940:1AA:EDE4:CBBB:C38E (talk) 17:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)