Talk:Metal leaf

Not synonymous

Composition metal and Schlagmetall would refer to metal leaf of brass type alloys not to metal leaf in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.227.15.253 (talk) 10:27, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Edible

Erm, there seems to be lots of repetition on this page. Someone should probably fix that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.126.110 (talk) 17:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Should someeq discusion about use of gold leaf in food be added here? -sdf

You must be thinking of something else. --AlexWCovington (talk) 16:37, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

No, he's thinking of edible gold foil. http://www.google.com/search?q=edible+gold+foil I don't find any reference to it in wikipedia and think it should be included, whether on this page or its own page I don't know. Plain old gold is edible, maybe silver too (see Vark). I hesitate to write the material cause I don't know the specifics. It should be included in the Category:Confectionery. Ewlyahoocom 00:50, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

The specifics were actually mostly available in metal leaf by the time I got to it, so I copied from there and tweaked it for the gold leaf page. Interestingly enough, there are actually companies that devote half their stock or more to being edible metal food decorations. Runa27 21:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

By the way, why on earth does Talk:Gold leaf redirect to Talk:Metal leaf!? They're two different articles! Now I feel weird saying the following:

I also shifted the pictures around and such. I'll be including some more details about water gilding relatively soon, so don't worry about the way the page looks now; the picture for water gilding won't be next to the gastronomy section when I finish. ;)

When it only applies to Gold leaf and not Metal leaf. :\ This is weird. I have never had this happen with a talk page before! Runa27 21:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Subject in Picture unclear

Can we get this cropped or somehow otherwise indicated as to where the actual subject is?

Lion head appears to be painted rather than gold leafed. Look at the bottom right of the lions head (viewer's perspective) and notice what appears to be a brush stroke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrberryman (talk • contribs) 17:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Misspelling

Metal leaf, or leafing, is a thin foil of some nearly pure metal often gold or silver, and somtimes copper. ---> it says somtimes instead of sometimes. Can't seem to update it. Please fix? Joey 18:55, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

silver leafs are non-toxic ?

Is there any evidence supporting this assertion ? Personnally I only found this [1] and according to the silver article , it is banned in Australia as a food additive.

Ghaag 21:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Silver is not toxic. Is edible if it is 999,99 and certified there is not toxic addition material (like copper)... --Fabiano Masserini (talk) 11:57, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

That seems to be disputed. See Silver#Precautions. -- Beland (talk) 20:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

What a mess

This page is a bit of a mess

Should there be a separate entry for Gold Leaf and have this entry about metal leaf not including gold leaf?

I have no specialist knowledge on the subject

The Yowser (talk) 14:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

(Moved topic to bottom of page per convention) I believe the reason why metal leaf and gold leaf are covered in a single article is due to the fact that most of the information available is in regards to gold leaf, yet most of the information is relevant to all types of metal leaf. Since the combined article is so short, there is very little reason to split it apart. (The goldbeating article, in its original state, described on possible method of a rather generic process. I did a lot to clean it up and convert it from a specific essay style to an article that generically discusses the topic in an encyclopedic style, but it still needs a lot of cleanup, and possibly even merging into this article in order to present a complete thought).

I do agree this page could use further cleanup, and the concepts true to all/most metal leafs be rendered generic, and the concepts specific only to gold leaf be grouped into a single section. If that section on gold-leaf specific information were then to grow into something that outweighs the other content in this article, then it may become appropriate to discuss WP:SPINOUT. -Verdatum (talk) 18:04, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Metal leaf vs. metal foil

What's the difference between metal leaf and foil? I'm sure there's a tangible difference, but neither article addresses this. Wizard191 (talk) 14:48, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

As I understand it, the difference is really in its use. Technically, metal leafing can be considered a foil, but the intended purpose of metal leaf is to be adhered onto a substrate. Alternatively, depending on context, a metal leaf can be descriptive of something thinner than a metal foil. I don't have any sources though, so I'd be hesitant to edit the articles to clarify this. -Verdatum (talk) 15:38, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I am a metal leaf producer, Usually "metal leaf" is related to pure metal (gold, silver, alluminum, copper) or alloy (copper/zinc) in leaf thin 0,3 micron, metal foil is metal power on a plastic film. so metal foil is not a metal leaf --Fabiano Masserini (talk) 10:29, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Why then is aluminium foil a foil and not a leaf? It is an alloy with no plastic coating. Wizard191 (talk) 15:56, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

The difference is about the hight of the metal if it is 0.3 microns usually it is called leaf. Metal leaf are made by a beating process (that can reach 0,3 microns it means 0,0003 mm). Foil are about 0,01 mm and can be as you said of Alluminum. In art product foil is also related at plastic films with gold or copper powder. So even if it is not correct in art metal we call leaf the 0,3 micron metal and foil the plastic one the real name is "hot stamp foil" because you have to warm it in order to use it. --Fabiano Masserini (talk) 11:17, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

OK, if you can incorporate this into the article that would be great! Wizard191 (talk) 15:07, 22 April 2010 (UTC)