Talk:Mesopotamia, Kurdistan, and Armenia

Contest the Speedy deletion

This is part of the Catholic Encyclopedia topics project. The topic is under [[1]] and is the equivalent of this article. The Roman Catholicism in Iraq article is in my opinion the best match. As it is the equivalent of a Catholic Encyclopedia article this should be done through the Article for Deletion process. JASpencer 22:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I do not see a reason for this redirect that is of no use to anyone. See: Wikipedia:redirect and tell me what this redirect is for? --Cat out 22:40, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

To assure full coverage on the Catholic Encyclopedia missing articles project. JASpencer 23:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

That doesn't explain the point or usage of this redirect. --Cat out 23:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

It also doesn't explain how after nine billion edits you think "useless POV redirect" appears anywhere on WP:CSD. Untagged. Take it to WP:RFD. Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

My poor opinion is that this article (if it deserves to be called an article) is utterly useless. Any mention of the fact of the existence of a Baghdad-based Apostolic Delegation that was at one time charged with looking after Catholics in "Mesopotamia, Kurdistan and Armenia" - and, during two distinct periods, also in "Persia" (cf. Dino Staffa: Le Delegazioni Apostoliche, pp. 133-135) - belongs either to a general article on Apostolic Delegations (nobody nowadays would say "Delegations Apostolic") or to the history part of an article on what that Apostolic Delegation has now become: the Apostolic Nunciature to Iraq.

Why should everything that was of practical interest a century ago and so was mentioned in the Catholic Encyclopedia of that time have to be included in a twenty-first century encyclopedia? The result is the inclusion here of information that is so out of date as to be useless. No, not just useless. Some of it, such as that on Canonical age is now misleading. (And no, I do not volunteer to work on that, or other, articles. I gave up after doing my share on Age of reason (canon law)). Including everything mentioned in the Catholic Encyclopedia, by just transcribing what is in that work, is, I think, a thoroughly bad idea. Lima 13:06, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

A very good point, but I think that Wikipedia:Catholic Encyclopedia topics and its talk page would be a better place to make this case. Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Hours before this last comment was made, the point had already been made at Catholic Encyclopedia topics. There has been no reaction pro or contra to the point on that page. Neither has there been any substantial reaction here, where it was placed to suggest that this page should be deleted, whether speedily or not. Angusmclellan has only said that it is a good point. Even JASpencer has not returned here to defend the article. Must I make a formal proposal? Well, okay. I hereby propose that Delegation Apostolic of Mesopotamia, Kurdistan, and Armenia be deleted. Lima 15:00, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

If you want to do this you will need to do it via WP:AFD. JASpencer 17:01, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

If nobody else agrees with me, it is useless for me to act. If someone else agrees with me, let that person act. For me personally, it is enough to have disassociated myself from the ridiculousness of the existence of this article in Wikipedia. (This page is not on my watchlist. Contact me, if I am needed.) Lima 18:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)