Talk:Mercantile Library Company (Philadelphia)

Latest comment: 1 day ago by TSventon in topic Unreliable sources

Did you know nomination

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  • Source: No single source but can be connected from here and here
5x expanded by AdoTang (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

AdoTang (talk) 04:58, 17 May 2024 (UTC).Reply

  • @AdoTang: Hi, I'll be reviewing this.
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited:  
  • Interesting:  
QPQ: Done.

Overall:   Article properly expanded, no copy vio. Sources used appear reliable. I've done some minor copy edits. ALT0 is rather uninteresting and dull, ALT1 in the hook it is mentioned as "subscription library" and this term has been used in the lead as well, but with no citation although the fact is cited later on in the History section. But as DYK hook rules suggest, the terms used in the hook should be cited in the article somewhat as is. Currently, the cited description in the history section does not mention the word subscription, and the sources do not mention it directly, which is fine here as we can calibrate that easily from the stated info. But it'd be better if you made a mention of that word in that section as well. ALT2 is the most interesting of the bunch. However, it needs a bit of rewording. The source cited mention "due to concerns over Asbestos" but the hooks states directly "due to asbestos". This should be reworded. Moving to ALT3, it feels rather mundane. Ping me once you've made the adjustments. Regards. X (talk) 02:50, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • @Xoak: I've decided to lean into ALT2 and ALT3. Reworded ALT2 as you suggested, and clarified what I was going for with ALT3 (the interest part was that it was only added after it was closed). Half-considering adding an ALT4 about how the Modern building was the first such building to be added to the Register, but I'm banking mainly on ALT2, which I agree is the most interesting. I was also thinking of adding another hook about how the 1877 fire originated from Fox's American Theatre considering it was in DYK recently, but I can't find a source that clearly states the connection and I doubt it would be particularly interesting to anyone except Philadelphia architectural historians. AdoTang (talk) 16:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
  Approving with strong preference for ALT2.X (talk) 17:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@AdoTang and Xoak:   I've had to pull this article from queue, since I don't believe that Mural Arts Philadelphia or OCF Realty are reliable sources. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Theleekycauldron: I have added another reference for ALT2 to the article Source: [Philadelphia Daily News Tue, 22 Aug 1989 Page 32 via Newspapers.com "The Mercantile Library - the business oriented branch of the Free Library of Philadelphia - has been forced to close due to an asbestos-related problem."]. TSventon (talk) 20:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Unreliable sources

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AdoTang, the DYK nomination has been put on hold, due to doubt whether Mural Arts Philadelphia and OCF Realty are reliable sources. The easiest way to resolve the issue would be to remove the sentences involved. what do you think?

The disused library building remained the property of the Philadelphia city government until it was sold to a private investor in 2006.[1] Though it has changed hands over the years since, no serious attempts have been made to expand or restore the building, and it has reportedly experienced water leak damage from neglect.[2] A mural commemorating the library's 20th century history was painted on the Mercantile Library building in 2019. Though the mural was intended to be temporary, it remains on the building.[2][3]

References

  1. ^ "Does Anyone Want the Mercantile Library Building?". OCF Realty. 2011-08-17. Retrieved 2024-05-17.
  2. ^ a b "What's Up at 1021 Chestnut Street?". Mural Arts Philadelphia. 2019-05-16. Retrieved 2024-05-17.
  3. ^ "Mercantile Library Mural". Hagopian Arts. Retrieved 2024-05-16.

TSventon (talk) 18:55, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Also you said you were also thinking of adding another hook about how the 1877 fire originated from Fox's American Theatre considering it was in DYK recently, but I can't find a source that clearly states the connection. What kind of connection are you looking for, I believe that The Philadelphia Inquirer mentions both buildings? TSventon (talk) 10:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)Reply