Talk:Mehemed Malmîsanij
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Kurdish ethnocentric edits by User:Gomada
editI don't know whether zazaki.net is reliable source or not because zazaki.net is one of the Kurdish sympathiser circles. But it's very clear that Malmîsanij is a Zaza. He thinks that the Zaza people belong to Kurdish people. At the same time, he is a Kurdish nationalist. Of course, User:Gomada must know this fact. Please stop fake edit like this. Takabeg (talk) 12:33, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
- You are not the person who will decide ethnicity of people. If he says, im Kurdish, he is Kurdish. He has even a book named, Zaza, Kirmanc, Dimili Kurds. You cant change the reality of Zazas with your edits. Read articles of Zazas. Zazaki.net belongs to Vate language group and It is the only linguistic and cultural group of Zazaki language. Stop to label people as nationalist.Gomada (talk) 14:52, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
- The articles of Wikipedia themselves are nor reliable sources.
- You changed [[Zaza people|Zaza]] to [[Zaza people|Kurdish]] here. This is nothing but fake per your own Kurdish ethnocentric POV.
- According to the provided source, Kürt milliyetçisi ve Zazaca dilbilimci Mehemed Malmîsanij (Kurdish nationalist and Zazaki linguist Mehmet Malmîsanij). But you removed it here. This is also caused by your own Kurdish ethnocentric POV.
Takabeg (talk) 22:48, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
- You will never understand what i try to do. You just use words, Kurdish nationalism, Kurdish ethnocentrism etc. You try to find excuses for yourself. But, i dont pay attention to your words. I made this change[[Zaza people|Kurdish]] myself, because Malmîsanij says, im a Zaza Kurd, then in article you must use Zaza Kurd, but you are even againist that. Therefore, i respect how he is identifying himself. If you just write Kurd, there will be no connection to Zazas' article. You say, im not sure if Zazaki.net is reliable source, but you use it as source. So, is it reliable for your purpose but not reliable for others? And Wladimir van Wilgenburg has said, he is nationalist, somebody can say nationalist somebody can say something else, that doesnt allow us to label people as nationlaists. You have to make it clear who calls him nationalist. If you just says, he is nationalist, it looks like your own idea. Because, that is not an international standart.Gomada (talk) 10:32, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
- I know the fact that the Kurdish ethnocentrists try to assimilate and erase Zaza people and other minorities. Please don't repeat Kurdish ethnocentric edits. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 05:57, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- takabeg stop attacking personnaly peoples who are not agree with you! Really stop turkish propagand here!
- I know the fact that the Kurdish ethnocentrists try to assimilate and erase Zaza people and other minorities. Please don't repeat Kurdish ethnocentric edits. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 05:57, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Malmisaniz is kurdish http://www.zazaki.net/html_page.php?page=gruba_xebate http://fr.calameo.com/read/001695923509c0f9c7096 . He refuse to say he is zaza, he says i am kurd! --Alsace38 (talk) 17:27, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- and don"t forget that your behaviour is worst! In turkish wikipedia, You did every every time delete all the contribution of kurds! so you are the only etno centric here, and you shouldn't accuse every body here! Alsace38 (talk) 20:22, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Criteria of nationalism
editFirst of all i'm a Zaza as Malmisanij and we are a part of Kurdish nation. What is the criteria of nationalism? Who decide? Does Malmisanij describe himself as a nationalist? In his interview, he accepts his Kurdish identity but some journalist "Wladimir van Wilgenburg" has described him as a nationalist. Is it enough reason to say that Malmisanij is a nationalist? He is an academic who works on Kurds and Kurdish. These are different things. We cant say that Zazas are Kurdish nationalists when they consider themselves as Kurds. Read article of Zazas. There are enough sources for their Kurdish identity. Kurmanj, Soran, Zaza, Goran all describe themselves as Kurd. So, please dont decide people's identity by yourself. Neribij (talk) 18:01, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
- he is nationalist, because he never used turkish coloured jacaobson alphabet, but only bedirxan alphabets, and he is forbidden of entry to turkey! --Alsace38 (talk) 17:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)