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Just a start, but a few more references added to the article; initial thoughts welcome though. Schissel | Sound the Note! 02:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
Those are solid references. My initial concern was, as my edit summary stated, "is this person notable to anyone not interested in this music area? Had famous teachers/pupils and was a prof, but seems no more notable than your average professor otherwise". With the exception of the prize, and not being a musician I have no idea of the value of that, I can only make assumptions about "the national composition prize" - I tried looking for info on it to judge its importance but was unable to find anything - maybe it has a more succinct name that isn't being used here, I still have doubts about notability, teaching famous people does not make one famous, but maybe I'm undervaluing his music and it's more appreciated in a musicologist's eyes.--Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi (talk) 10:31, 13 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
I translated this from the German, along with an article on Reinhard Schwarz-Schilling. These are both very minor composers, to be sure. Trapp has minor notoriety as a "Nazi" composer (indicated in the article), and a google scholar search shows a number of mentions. His publisher was Eulenberg & as Schissel observes above a rare CD or 2 is available. Both Trapp (as a Nazi composer) and Schwarz-Schilling (as a teacher of Orff) are deemed notable enough for the German Wikipedia which generally has much more stringent notability standards than we do. Eusebeus (talk) 15:25, 13 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
OK, the initial lack of sourcing is understandable then, at least thanks to Schissel there, it's now better sourced than the German article :D I must admit my very first thought was if it was a hoax (Sound of Music - von Trapp musicians and all that). Re the notability - it needs to be more clearly stated then for readers who are not musicians/musiciologists, as I get to the end of the introduction line and think "and...what then?, what's he famous for?" I'm not sure about the 'was a teacher of <insert famous person here>' as making one notable, much less so for being a Nazi. However, f his music was written and played at various level Third Reich events/parties/functions etc., then sure, but it needs to be stated.--Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi (talk) 11:41, 14 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
Good points - be bold! and change the intro per your points. Meanwhile, I'll keep an eye on the German articles and when additional information is added I'm happy to translate it. Eusebeus (talk) 13:31, 14 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
