Talk:Mautam

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 142.163.195.117 in topic Duplicate page

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"Bamboo strain" isn't very good: the species of bamboo involved is essential to know. The "bamboo death" (isn't that the literal translation of mau tam, rather than "flowering"?) needs to be explained: after flowering, bamboo dies, culm and running root and all, and regenerates from seed, which is overwhelmingly available and eaten by rodents, thus triggering the ensuing population boom of rodents. The seeds of any culm of bamboo that might flower off-cycle are all eaten up by rodents, thus reinforcing the rhythm of this extreme version of a mast year: think squirrels-and-acorns. --Wetman 00:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

INBAR edit

Found some good photos and descriptions at the International Network for Bamboo and Rattan (INBAR).

"Mass flowering attracts the most attention, such as that of Bashania fangiana in the 1980s that affected the Giant panda, and the regular, once-every-48-year, flowering of Melocanna baccifera in Northeast India that brings famine and environmental degradation." [1].

"In NE India and Bangladesh Melocanna baccifera and Bambusa tulda both have lifecycles of 48 years. These two species do not flower together at the same time: B. tulda flowers 18 years after M. baccifera. The famines caused by the flowering of M. baccifera are known as the "Mautam" famines. These occurred in Mizoram in 1815, 1863, 1911 and 1959. The flowering of Bambusa tulda causes the "Thingtam" famine, and these occurred in 1785, 1833, 1881, 1929 and 1977. Mautam famines are more severe because the fruits of M. baccifera are much larger and can support larger populations of rats" [2]. --Northanger 05:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Rat species edit

Anyone know the species of rat species involved? Is it a bandicoot rat? Here's a list of what I think the main suspects are:

Bandicota indica, Bandicota bengalensis, and Rattus rattus

Other rattish creatures in Mizoram would include:

Rattus exulans, Rattus nitidus, Berylmys manipulus, Berylmys mackenziei, Niviventer langbianis, and Vandeleuria oleracea.

Anyone actually know? --Aranae 22:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

There are pictures here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5044436.stm
Looks like a bandicoot rat to my untrained eyes. 70.49.98.177 01:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

The article states "...the Melocanna baccifera species of bamboo in the state flowers, which is inexplicably and invariably followed by a subsequent plague of giant bandicoot rats...", and then goes on to explain the increase in rat population. I will remove the word inexplicably.

According to http://www.rentokil.com/blog/bamboo-rats-flower-famine/?hc_location=ufi, it's Bandicota savilei. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.178.113.254 (talk) 14:48, 30 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Pictures edit

Can anyone find pictures of the bamboo flowering? This article could use a picture, and massive bamboo flowering (despite the problems it causes) probably look cool. Aaronstj 20:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

I've uploaded a flowering bamboo shoot. By the way, I've added a number of references (in English) in the Tamil Wiki article on the same subject. Use them here, if you want. By the way, can someone find free pictures or request the authorities to release the pictures here? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 09:49, 26 June 2006 (UTC)Reply


Pronunciation? edit

Is it Mow Tan (like "cow") or Maw Tan (like "raw"?) --Wetman 20:47, 14 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

I'm not certain, but I think in Mizo, "au" has a "awa" sound, though it's a fairly weak "w". That would make it "mawatam". Can anybody from Mizoram help us out? --Aranae 03:05, 15 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

'Mau' is pronounced /mow/(as in cow), and the 'tam' is not pronounced like Tan, as you have pointed out, but rather tam, with a long, low 'a' sound. In the International Phonetics Alphabet the pronunciation would be, roughly(since I don't have IPA font),/'mauta::m/. --ThlirVêlna 20:40, 3 April 2011

Questions edit

I was taking a wikibreak and came across this article in my travels (the random article button is a lot of fun!).

After reading this article, I have some important questions. I also have some concerns that I feel can only be addressed by someone knowledgable on the topic. I don't want to muddy up a perfectly harmonious talk page with any statements that could lead to argument or personal attacks, such as what happens on some other talk pages - particularly if my questions and concerns are unfounded.

Perhaps someone could leave me a message on my talk page - or better yet, e-mail me. I don't know who the author of this page is - to hear from that editor would be ideal, as they would seem most knowledgable on the subject.

I realize that my previous statement was provocative, so a swift clearing up of this matter is in order, and I can perhaps likewise put any concerns someone might have about this to rest.

Sincerely, NinaEliza 22:43, 25 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

I just came across this article and it is quite interesting but it hasn't been touched since 2006. Is there anyone knowledgeable enough to update it? cfazendin (talk) 06:35, 7 June 2009 (UTC)Reply

Occurence edit

Should it say "occurs every 48 years " or "occurs approximately every 48 years"? RJFJR (talk) 17:35, 16 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Duplicate page edit

This page is a duplicate of Bamboo Blossom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve Scott (talkcontribs) 09:31, 5 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

not really. That article is about the phenomenon in general. This article is about a particular history in one location. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.163.195.117 (talk) 16:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

What starts it edit

It seems from the article that it does not start with a boom in the rat population but with a mass blooming of bamboo. 142.163.195.117 (talk) 16:29, 10 February 2023 (UTC)Reply