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visualized by ASI (Archeological Survey Of India) based on ancient inscriptions, ancient Greecian , ancient Indian texts,[1] modern archaeologist :Nayanjot Lahiri[2],Dougald J. W. O'Reilly,[3] old archeologist :D.R. Bhandarkar[4], Myra Shackley:[5] modern historian : Upinder Singh[6],Jackson J. Spielvogel[7]Hugh Bowden[8], Ram Sharan Sharma[9], Charles Allen[10] old historians:Radha Kumud Mukherjee[11][12],John Haywood;[13]Patrick Karl O'Brien,[14][15]H. C. Raychaudhuri,[16]John F. Cady,[17]Gerald Danzer,[18]Vincent Arthur Smith;[19] Robert Roswell Palmer,[20]Geoffrey Parker,[21]R. C. Majumdar;[22]and historical geographer:Joseph E. Schwartzberg.[23]

Add these sources under the 5 million Sq map of Mauryan Empire as citations TeraBhai349 (talk) 17:53, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: I need a commonality established for these individuals, such as an ISBN, or an OCLC, DOI, URL, etc, anything that links them together as a unified source other than your say so. Please advise. Thank you!  Spintendo  21:18, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

ok here you go the unified sources that should be added in this are

19) Pg.75: The Indian conquests of Alexander to the east of the Indus, which extended across the Panjab as far as the Hyphasis or Bias river, quickly passed, as we have seen, soon after the death of Alexander, into the hands of Chandragupta Maurya, and the four satrapies of Aria, Arachosia, Gedrosia, and the Paropanisadai were ceded to him by Seleukos Nikator about B. c. 305. The Maurya frontier was thus extended as far as the Hindu Rush Mountains, and the greater part of the countries now called Afghanistan, Baluchistan and Makran, with the North- Western Frontier Province, became incorporated in the Indian Empire. That empire included the famous strongholds of Kabul, Zabul, Kandahar, and Herat, and so possessed the scientific frontier ' for which Anglo-Indian statesmen have long sighed in vain. There is no reason to suppose that the trans-Indus provinces were lost by Bindusara, and it is reasonable to assume that they continued under the sway of Asoka, who refers to Antiochos, King of Syria, in terms which suggest that the Syrian and Indian empires were conterminous. Costly buildings ascribed to Asoka were seen by Hiuen Tsang in different parts of Afghanistan. Among others he mentions a stone stupa, a hundred feet high, at the town of Kapisa, somewhere in Kafiristan, and a remarkable building of the same kind, three hundred feet in height and richly decorated, at Nangrahar, near Jalalabad, on the Kabul river. The Swat valley also contained evidences of Asoka's passion for building ." "Pg.81 : Asoka's empire, therefore, comprised the countries now known as Afghanistan, as far as the Hindu Kush, Baluchistan, Makran, Sind, Kachh (Cutch), the Swat valley, with the adjoining regions, Kashmir, Nepal, and the whole of India proper, except the extreme south, Tamilakam or Tamil Land. His dominions were far more extensive than British India of to-day, excluding Burma. "Smith, Vincent Arthur, The Oxford History of India: From the Earliest Times to the End of 1911, Clarendon Press, pp. 75, 81

20) " Pg.116 - Based on Magadha in the Ganges valley, the Mauryan empire flourished from 322 B.C., when its founder Chandragupta seized the capital city of Pataliputra to 185 B.C., when the last ruler of the dynasty died. Chandragupta united north India from the mouths of the Ganges to the watershed west of the Indus. He then took over, from a satrap of the Alexandrian empire, the regions of Arachosia and Gandhara up to the Hindu Kush mountains. His son Bindusara extended the empire to about the fifteenth parallel of latitude, except for Kalinga on the east coast, which was later annexed by Asoka. The reign of Asoka (273-232 B.C.) -saw the height of the Mauryan empire, and is one of the great periods of Indian history. Shortly after the conquest of Kahnga Asoka was converted to Buddhism, whereupon, forswearing mihtarism. he devoted himself to the welfare of his people and the propagation of Buddhism. His missionaries brought Buddhism and Indian civilization to Ceylon and elsewhere." Rand McNally and Company; Palmer, R. R. (Robert Roswell) (1965). Rand McNally atlas of world history. Internet Archive. Chicago. p. 106.

21) " Pg.28 - A further turning point came in 320 BC when Chandragupta Maurya seized the state of Magadha on the lower Ganges, and occupied large parts of central India, and in 305 BC annexed the province of Trans-Indus from the successors of Alexander the Great (see page 32). Chandragupta’s grandson Ashoka (273-232 BC) expanded this Mauryan empire southwards, bringing the greater part of the sub-continent under his rule and inscribing edicts on pillars and rock-faces all over India as a permanent reminder of his power (map 2). Ashoka’s death introduced a troubled period, punctuated by invasions of both Greeks and nomads who founded states in the north-west, such as the Kushan empire, where Hellenistic and Indian influences mingled. Further south, the Satavahanas of the Deccan ruled a state that straddled the peninsula by AD 150." The Times compact history of the world. Internet Archive. London : Times Books. 2008. p. 28. ISBN 978-0-00-726731-6.

22) "Pg.101 : Towards the close of the reign of Chandrgupta, the Maurya empire received a further extension in the north-west Seleucus the general of Alexander, who had made himself master of Babylon, gradually extended his empire from the Mediterranean Sea to the Indus and even tried to regain the provinces to the east of that river. He failed and had to conclude a treaty with Chandragupta by which he surrendered a large territory including, in the opinion of certain writers, the satrapies of Paropanisadai {Kabul), Aria (Herat), Arachosia (Qandahar), and Gedrosia (Baluchistan), in return for 500 elephant. "Pg.104 : The conquest of this province rounded off the Maurya empire, which now embraced almost the whole of nonTamil India and a considerable portion of Afganistan. It stretched from the land of the Yonas, Kambojaa and Gandharas in the Kabul valley and some adjoining mountain territory to the country of the Andhra in the Godavari-Krishna basin and the district(Ahara) of Isila in the north of Mysore* and from Sopara and Girnar in the west to Dhauli and Jaugada in the east. In the north-west the empire touched the realm of Antiochos II the Greek king of Syria and Western Asia, and in the south it extended as far as the Kingdom of tho Chodas, Pandyas, Satiyaputra and Keralaputras in the Tamil country. If tradition is to be believed, the dominions of Ashoka included the secluded vales of Kashmir and Nepal as well as the riparian plins of Pundravardhana (North Bengal) and Samatata [East Bengal), The inclusion of the Himalayan valleys is rendered probably by the discovery of inscriptions at Mansera in the Hazara district, at Kalsi in the Dehradun district at Nigali Sagar and Rummindei in the Nepaleso Tarai and at Rampurva in the Champaran district of North Bihar. "Majumdar, R. C. (1953). Advanced history of India. Macmillan & Company. p. 101,104.

23) Schwartzberg, Joseph E. A Historical Atlas of South Asia , 2nd ed. (University of Minnesota, 1992), Plate III.B.4b (p.18) and Plate XIV.1a-c (p.145) |url=https://dsal.uchicago.edu/reference/schwartzberg/ |date=26 January 2021 Guchhemane556 (talk) 00:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

1) Indian Historical Quarterly, Vol-13, Issue no.-1-4. p. 412

2) " Pg.5  : In relation to his predecessors, he was the first Indian king to rule over an empire embracing much of India and its western borderlands, from Afghanistan to Orissa and towards the south as far as Karnataka. In relation to the rulers who followed him, it was his example which influenced thought-philosophical, religious, cultural-in Asia more profoundly than that of any other political figure of antiquity." Lahiri, Nayanjot (2015-08-05). Ashoka in Ancient India. Harvard University Press. p. 5. ISBN 978-0-674-05777-7.

3) " O'Reilly, Dougald J. W. (2007). Early Civilizations of Southeast Asia. Rowman Altamira. p. 178. ISBN 978-0-7591-0279-8.

4 ) " Pg.42-43 : We thus obtain a fairly accurate idea of the extent of Asoka's dominions. They included the whole of India except the southern extremity of the peninsula held by the Choda, Pandya, Satiya- putra and Keralaputra kings. This southern boundary is marked roughly by a line drawn from Pulicat near Madras in the east, to Gooty and Chitaldrug in the north where the four copies of Aśoka's Minor Rock Edicts have been discovered right up to the northern point of the South Canara District on the west. Let us now see what Greek princes have been mentioned by Aśoka as his contemporaries, and try to identify them. They have all been named in Rock Edict XIII. Of course, Amtiyoka is the first to be named as he was a neighbour of Asoka. Beyond his kingdom, we are told, were ruling the four princes Turamaya, Amtekina or Amtikini, Maga and Alikasumdra. Amtiyoka is, of course, Antiochus II. Theos (B.C. 261-246), king of Syria, and Turamaya, Ptolemy II. Philadelphos of Egypt (285-247). Amtekina or Amtikini, as Bühler has remarked, corresponds to the Greek Antigenes rather than to Antigonus."Bhandarkar, D. R. Asoka. Central Archelogical Library. p. 42-43. ISBN 978-93-837-2346-1.

5) " Pg.67 - After Alexanderâs retreat from the Indus the Emperor Chandragupta Maurya established the first indigenous empire to exercise control over much of the subcontinent, and eventually, under his successors, this covered all but the tip of the peninsula. Asoka, the greatest of the Mauryan emperors, took power in 272 BC and extended the empire from Afghanistan to Assam and from the Himalayas to Mysore, leaving behind a series of inscriptions recording his edicts on pillars and rocks across the continent." Shackley, Myra L. (2006). Atlas of travel and tourism development. Internet Archive. Amsterdam ; Boston : Elsevier. p. 67. ISBN 978-0-7506-6348-9.

6) Pg.740 : "Chandragupta and Seleucus Nikator, who had inherited the eastern provinces of Alexander’s empire. This may have occurred in about 301 BCE and was resolved by an agreement. Chandragupta obtained the territories of Arachosia (the Kandahar area of south-east Afghanistan), Gedrosia (south Baluchistan), and Paropomisadai (the area between Afghanistan and the Indian subcontinent) and handed over 500 elephants in return. " Pg.748 : "The distribution of Ashoka's inscriptions suggests the extent of the Maurya empire. In the north-west, it extended up to Kandahar in Afghanistan, with the kingdom of Antiochus II of Syria lying to the west. Its eastern frontier extended to Orissa. It included almost the entire subcontinent, except the southernmost parts, which, according to rock edict 13, were inhabited by the Cholas and Pandyas, and according to rock edict 2, by the Keralaputras and Satiyaputras." Upinder Singh (2008). History Of Ancient And Early Medeival India From The Stone Age To The 12th Century. p. 740,748

7) " Pg.106 - Seleucid Kingdom Another Hellenistic monarchy was founded by the general Seleucus (suh-LOO-kuss), who established the Seleucid dynasty of Syria. This was the largest of the Hellenistic kingdoms and controlled much of the old Persian Empire from Turkey in the west to India in the east, although the Seleucids found it increasingly difficult to maintain control of the eastern territories. In fact, an Indian ruler named Chandragupta Maurya (chundruh-GOOP-tuh MOWR-yuh) (324-301 B.c.E.) created a new Indian state, the Mauryan Empire, and drove out the Seleucid forces. His grandson Asoka (uh-SOH-kuh) (269-232 b.c.e.) extended the empire to include most of India and is considered the greatest ruler in India’s history. Asoka, a pious Buddhist, sought to convert the remaining Greek communities in northwestern India to his religion and even sent Buddhist missionaries to Greek rulers. The Seleucid rulers maintained relations with the Mauryan Empire. Trade was fostered, especially in such luxuries as spices and jewels. Seleucus also sent Greek and Macedonian ambassadors to the Mauryan court. Best known of these was Megasthenes (muh-GAS-thuh-neez), whose report on the people of India remained one of the West’s best sources of information on India until the Middle Ages. " Spielvogel, Jackson J. (2012). Western civilization. Internet Archive. Boston, MA : Wadsworth Cengage Learning. p. 106. ISBN 978-0-495-91329-0.

8) Pg.122 : India's first approach towards becoming a unified state occurred under the first three kings of the Mauryan Empire. The founder of the dynasty, Chandragupta Maurya (c.310-286 BCE) , king of Magadha in Eastern India, unfied under his control the other kingdom of the Gangetic Plain. His grandson, Ashoka (c.270-234 BCE) , consolidated Mauryan imperial rule, extending it into eastern and southern "The Times ancient civilizations. Internet Archive. London : Times Books. 2002. p. 122. ISBN 978-0-00-710859-6.

9) “ Pg.355 : मौर्य राजनीतिक इतिहास का सबसे बड़ा तथ्य मग॒ध साम्राज्य वी स्थापना था, जिसमें सुदूर दक्षिण को छोडकर सपूर्ण भारत शामिल था । यह साम्राज्य तलवार के जोर से स्थापित किया गया था और इसकी रक्षा भी तलवार के जोर से ही हो सकती थी। बाहय सुरक्षा तथा आंतरिक शांति दोनो के लिए प्रबल सैन्यशक्ति आवश्यक थी। .. साम्राज्य के अंदर और उसकी सीमा पर रहनेवाले जनजात्तीय लोग बराबर परेशानी का कारण बने रहते थे। इस सबके लिए विशाल स्थायी सेना और चुस्त दंडव्यवस्था थी। " English Translation of his statement - "The biggest fact of Maurya political history was the establishment of the Magadha Empire, which included the whole of India except the far south. This empire was established with the strength of the sword and it could be protected only with the strength of the sword. Strong military power was necessary for both external security and internal peace..The tribal people living inside the empire and on its borders were equally a cause of trouble. So for this, there was a huge permanent army and tight judicial system."Sharma, Ramsharan (1990). Prachin Bharat Me Rajneetik Vichar Avam Sansthae. p. 355.

10) Pg.1 : Ashoka Maurya—or Ashoka the Great as he was later known—holds a special place in the history of Buddhism and India. At its height in around 250 BCE, his empire stretched across the Indian subcontinent to Kandahar in the east, and as far north as the Himalayas. Through his quest to govern by moral force alone, Ashoka transformed Buddhism from a minor sect into a major world religion, while simultaneously setting a new yardstick for government that had lasting implications for all of Asia. His bold experiment ended in tragedy, however, and in the tumult that followed the historical record was cleansed so effectively that his name was largely forgotten for almost two thousand years. Yet, a few mysterious stone monuments and inscriptions miraculously survived the purge. " Pg. 60 : Pliny admits to the loss of Greek territory: "The Indians afterwards held a large part of Ariane [a satrapy of the Persian Empire encompassing what is now eastern Iran, south-western Afghanistan and Baluchistan] which they had received from the Macedonians, entering into marriage relations with him, and giving in return five hundred elephants, of which Sandrakottos had nine thousand." "Allen, Charles (2012-02-21). Ashoka: The Search for India's Lost Emperor. Little, Brown Book Group. p. 1 ,60 and his created map on pg. 12. ISBN 978-1-4087-0388-5.

11) " Pg.12 : Asoka had the singular good fortune of being spared the ifficult task of founding and organising an inpare That ask was effectively executed by his grandfather, Chandragupta Maurya, who bequeathed to his successors an empire extending approximately from Afghanistan to Mysore Territories which are even now outside the Government of India were parts of the Indian Empire under Chandragupta, the four satrapies of Aria, Arochosia, Gedrosia, and the Paropanisadai, which Chanaragupta wrested in about 304 B C from the empire of Selukos as the penalty for his ill-advised aggression." " Pg.13 :Yuan Chwang saw Asokan topes in Kapis (Kafiris- tan), Nagar (Jelalabad), and Udyana in the north-west. In Bengal, the authority of Asoka is proved by his stūpa at Tamralipti, the capital of Suhma, and the famous port of embarkation for voyages towards the south. According to Yuan Chwang, there was also a stupa of Asoka in the capital of Samatata or the Brahmaputra Delta, and others in different parts of Bengal and Bihar, viz., Punyavardhana (northern Bengal) and Karnasuvarna (modern Burdwan, Birbhum and Murshidabad districts) [Watters, ii 184 f]. Yuan Chwang refers to Asokan topes being erected at various places in the south, in Chola and Dravida, of which the capital, Kanchipura, has been sought to be identified with the Satiyaputra country of the Edict Indeed, the distribu- tion of the Asokan topes as mentioned by Yuan Chwang is almost co-terminous with that of the inscriptions, and is equally significant of the vastness of his empire.Lastly, the extent of his empire is also indicated by his own mention in the Edicts (R.E. II, V, and XIII] of the peoples on its borders In the south, these are mentioned as the Cholas, Pandyas, the Satiyaputra and Keralaputra, who were all within his sphere of influence Towards the north-west, his empire marched with that of the Synan monarch, Antiochos [R.E. II], and hence extended up to Persia and Syria which were held by Antiochos, while it is also known how Asoka's grandfather, Chandragupta, had wrested from Selukos the provinces of Aria, Arachosia, Paropanisadai and Gedrosia, which descended to Asoka as his inheritance. Lastly, the extent of his empire is also indicated by his own mention in the Edicts (Rock Edict II, V, and XIII] of the peoples on its borders In the south, these are mentioned as the Cholas, Pandyas, the Satiyaputra and Keralaputra, who were all within his sphere of influence Towards the north-west, his empire marched with that of the Synan monarch, Antiochos [Rock Edict II], and hence extended up to Persia and Syria which were held by Antiochos, while it is also known how Asoka's grandfather, Chandragupta, had wrested from Selukos the provinces of Aria, Arachosia, Paropanisadai and Gedrosia, which descended to Asoka as his inheritance ." " Pg.16 : The capital of the empire at Pataliputra [Rock Edict V. Girnar], and of outlying towns", such as Bodh-Gaya [Rock Edict VIII), Kosambi (Allahabad Pillar Edict], Ujjeni, Takkhasilä [K.R.Edict),Suvarnagiri, Isila [M.R.Edict], and Tosali and Samāpā in the province of Kalinga [K.R.Edict] Thus we have a fairly definite idea of the limits of Asoka's empire in different directions. We may even hazard the conjecture that the empire was so large that Asoka did not live to visit all its parts, and inspect the execution of his inscriptions in different localities."Mookerji, Radhakumud (1962). Asoka. Motilal Banarsidass Publishe. p. 12,13,16. ISBN 978-81-208-0582-8.

12) "Pg.36-37: Chandragupta did not merely supplant the Nanda king in the sovereignty of Magadha. He made himself at once the sovereign of an empire which was much larger than that of Nanda, for it included the land of the five rivers up to the Indus. This empire also extended farther by his later conquests. His subsequent career may be gathered from the following statement of Plutarch [Lives^ Chap. LXII] : 'Not long afterwards, Androcottos, who had at that time mounted the throne, presented Seleukos with 500 elephants and overran and subdued the whole of India with an army of 600,000 . " The throne " here is the throne of Magadha which he had won by defeating the Nanda king. The present to Seleukos was the result of a war between the two. It would appear that in the struggle for power which ensued among the generals of Alexander after his death, Seleukos won for himself a secure position as the ruler of Babylon by about 311 B C. and felt free to devote himself to the consolidation of his authority in the distant provinces. Bactria was not subdued without hard fighting. And by about 305 or 304 B. C. at the latest, he planned for a recovery of the Indian conquests of Alexander. Taking the route along the Kabul river, hb crossed the Indus [Appian, Syr. 55]. But the expedition proved abortive and ended in an alliance. It was because he had to confront a new India, strong and united, under Chandragupta in command of a formidable army, and felt that discretion was the better part of valour. By the terms of the treaty, Seleukos ceded to Chandragupta the Satrapies of Arachosia' (Kandahar) and the Paropanisadae (Kabul), together with portions of Aria (Herat) and Gedrosia (Baluchistan). Thus Chandragupta was able to add another glorious feather to his cap. He extended his empire beyond the frontiers of India up to the borders of Persia. That is why it was possible for his grandson Asoka to declare in two of his Rock Edicts [11 and XIII] that the Syrian emperor, Antiochus [Antiyoka Yona^raja]^ was his immediate neighbour, one of his frontagers (an Anta or a Pratyanta king). "Mookerji, Radhakumud (1966). Chandragupta Maurya and His Times. Motilal Banarsidass Publ. ISBN 978-81-208-0405-0.

13) " Pg.24 : In 321 Chandragupta Maurya (321-c. 293) seized the throne of the kingdom of Magadha, overthrowing the Nanda dynasty. Chandragupta spent most of his reign building a strong central administration, but he defeated a Seleucid invasioin, adding all of northwest India to his domains. His son Bindusara also conquered much of southern India. Under Ashoka the Mauryan empire reached its greatest extent. Appalled by his bloody conquest of the east coast kingdom of Kalinga in 261 Ashoka abjured further warfare and, becoming a Buddhist, tried to impose Buddhist standards of behavior on his people." Haywood, John (1997). Atlas of world history. Internet Archive. New York : Barnes & Noble Books. p. 24. ISBN 978-0-7607-0687-9.

14) " Pg.46 - By 500 Bc kingdoms existed throughout the Ganges region. Chief among these was Magadha, favourably located for control both of riverborne trade and of the sources of raw materials such as iron. Magadha gradually expanded at the expense of its neighbours and before 297 Bc its king, Chandragupta Maurya, ruled most of north India . His grandson Ashoka (r. 272-231 Bc) further extended the empire, conquering Kalinga in 261 Bc, and only the extreme south retained its independence. Pillar and rock edicts mark the extent of Mauryan political authority: these proclaimed Ashoka’s ethical code of social responsibility and toleration. It was an age of peace and prosperity."Philip's Atlas of World History: From the Origins of Humanity to the Year 2000. Internet Archive. The Softback Preview. 1999. p. 46. ISBN 978-0-540-07858-5.

15) https://books.google.nl/books?id=ffZy5tDjaUkC&pg=PA46&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

16) "Pg.273 : The ceded country comprised a large portion of Ariana itself, a fact ignored by Tarn. In exchange the Maurya a monarch gave the "comparatively small recompense of 500 elephants”. It is believed that the territory ceded by the Syrian king included the four satrapies: Aria, Arachosia, Gedrosia and the Paropanisadai, i.e., Herat, Kandahar, Makran and Kabul. Doubts have been entertained about this by several scholars including Tarn. The inclusion of the Kabul valley within the Maurya Empire is, however, proved by the inscriptions of Asoka, the grandson of Chandragupta, which speak of the Yonas and Gandharas as vassals of the Empire. And the evidence of Strabo probably points to the cession by Seleukos of a large part of the Iranian Tableland besides the riparian provinces on the Indus." " Pg.297: The conquest of the territory between the eastern and western seas has been taken by some scholars to refer to the annexation of the Deccan. But we should not forget that already in the time of Chandragupta the Maurya Empire extended from Saurashtra to Bengal (Gangaridae), i.e., from the western to the eastern sea. " " Pg.327 : The full political effects of this change of policy became manifest only after the death of Ashoka, perhaps even after the 27th year of his consecration. From the time of Bimbisara to the Kalinga war' the history India was the story of the expansion of Magadha from a tiny state in South Bihar to a gigantic Empire extending from the foot of the Hindukush to the borders of the Tamil country."Raychaud, Hem Chandra Raychaudhuri (1953). Political history of ancient India. p. 273,297,327.

17) " Pg.34 - The India from whose culture Southeast Asian peoples borrowed so extensively was partly united for the first time politically in the third century B.C. The Mauryan Empire (330 to 180 By.) included the north Indian valleys westward to Greek Bactria and southward along the eastern Indian coast to the mouths of the Kistna and Godavari Rivers. Mauryan power centering at Patna in the lower Ganges Valley reached its peak in the mid-third century B.c. under the leadership of the great Asoka, who was a political exemplar of Buddhist ideals and humanitarian principles of government. Asoka unified and promoted the Buddhist faith without persecuting dissident elements; he built India’s first shrines of cut stone and burned brick; he sponsored missionary efforts within India and beyond. Mauryan rule declined rapidly after his death in 237 B.c."Cady, John F. (John Frank) (1964). Southeast Asia: its historical development. Internet Archive. New York, McGraw-Hill. p. 34.

18) " Pg.44 - The Mauryan Empire reached out from the Ganges valley to annex the Indus valley peoples shortly after the death of Alexander the Great. Asoka extended the empire in all directions, but had an even greater impact in spreading the teachings of the Buddha throughout his realm. He had pillars erected at crossroads locations covered with edicts written in stone to proclaim his ideals." ..."In the generation after Alexander, however, information resurfaces with the establishment of the Mauryan Empire by Chandragupta in 324 BCE. By 240 bce the Mauryan Empire reached its greatest extent, controlling the great river valleys of both the Ganges and Indus rivers. Of even more importance was the conversion of the emperor, Asoka, to Buddhism. "Danzer, Gerald A. (2000). An atlas of world history. Internet Archive. Ann Arbor, MI : Borders Press. p. 44. ISBN 978-0-681-46572-5. Guchhemane556 (talk) 00:36, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Obvious sock. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 04:25, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Lol, I was about to say. I'll file the SPI. EDIT: There we go Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Indo12122. HistoryofIran (talk) 14:12, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Mauryan Court Flag

Hello, I uploaded a Mauryan Court Banner with sources, but I need people's approval before I add it. It most likely won't be in the infobox though. The banner is linked here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mauryan_Court_Banner_(Chandragupta).png Sci Show With Moh (talk) 03:50, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

There is no source on the original painting and it is unlikely to be contemporary as this style of painting was not used during the Mauryan era. There is also no source stating that this flag was official. SKAG123 (talk) 19:17, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Map Update

Wikipedia shouldn't promote a self created map using proposed extents of empires. The existing map leaves is inconsistent and fails to fill in the political entities that exist in the time contemporary of the Maurya Empire. Joshua Jonathan stop gatekeeping. Rancid Boar (talk) 04:04, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

The maps have the support of the majority of editors who have edited this page or taken part in the talk page discussions. Please don't accuse Joshua of something they are not doing. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 00:36, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Most academic sources use the complete map, not the one you wiki scholars are trying to portray. "Majority of editors" on Wikipedia isn't credible, this site is the only resource promoting the skeletal map. Every historical map is infered since the exact extant of the empire and boundaries were not defined. You have failed to provide a reasonable explanation of the entities that existed within the Maurya Empire. Instead of being content with a limited skeleton, why can't you editors fill in the map appropriatel? Rancid Boar (talk) 10:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

See the previous discussions. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 12:35, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

I’ve noticed that there are inconsistencies with the current map, especially with the coordinates and western border. I agree with Rancid Boar who tried to bring awareness to this. If you look at the left part of the map you’ll see it is not consistent with the Joppen map, the map which is based on… not to mention that most academic maps of the Mauryans show it extends further west. And the Joppen map itself shows the border facing the Gulf of Oman ends precisely around the coordinates of (25.1815245, 61.5714517) while the current map shows this point ending much further east then it should be, thus the border should extend from the mentioned coordinate up to (28.7177855, 64.0532003), otherwise the map is not concise with the Joppen map which the creator said it’d based of. Even the geographic details shown on the Joppen map point to this. (Discopleasant (talk) 13:15, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

It is not described as based on a Joppen map. NebY (talk) 17:37, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

the creator of the map said it is. By clicking the image and scrolling down it takes you to the edit history of the image, and in one discussion the creator of the current map said he made the map based entirely on the Joppen map. (Discopleasant (talk) 20:15, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

Antiidistorian I believe you talked about this with the creator before. The map isn’t 100% accurate. There are many maps out there that have depict the Mauryan empire yet we use one that has to follow the Joppen map for some reason. I looked at the Joppen map and the Joppen map itself shows the borders of the empire ending precisely around the coordinates of (25.1815245, 61.5714517) in a bay known as the “Jiwani Bay”, yet the current-made map shows the borders ending much further east. Even the Joppen map shows the geography of the area where you can clearly see where the bay is. (Discopleasant (talk) 22:52, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

Well-informed for a newbie. And which map exactly are you talking about, the 'holes-map' or the 'one piece' map? The 'one piece' map is based on Joppen, and shows the western border further west than the 'holes map'. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 02:54, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Please don’t make personal attacks like you did to my talk page. And I’m referring to the one piece map. There’s a minor error in the current map that doesn’t align with the Joppen map, the details which I showed to Avantiputra7. I wanted to check with him first. Let’s continue the conversation here. (Discopleasant (talk) 05:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC))

India in 250 BCE Joppen

Just to be clear, this is the image the current full map is based on and it's extending into what's now Jiwani bay. Should we replace the current full map with the original Joppen map? it seems like the most accurate depiction. (Discopleasant (talk) 09:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC))

minor correction

"strict-but-fair" change into "strict but fair" 103.110.48.13 (talk) 11:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Jambudvipa

I suggest to add Magadh Empire as well as empire of Jambudvipa in the native name section TuberGotTubed (talk) 13:28, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Please note that (a) you need modern academic sources and (2) many such sources before you add the conventional long name parameter. If there are alternate names, you can always add them in the section title "Etymology". RegentsPark (comment) 05:45, 5 July 2024 (UTC)