Talk:Matteuccia

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Maidenhair in topic Spore-bearing structures

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:10, 22 January 2010 (UTC)Reply


Ostrich fernMatteuccia struthiopteris — Consistency in page naming.—jaknouse (talk) 03:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

Poll

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Discussion

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See also for example today's featured article, on the Splendid Fairywren. Andrewa (talk) 11:29, 12 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

I'll be interested to see where this leads, but in view of the current naming convention at WP:FLORA, and the link there from WP:NC, I won't oppose the move for the moment.

It does seem a little ironic that this move was described as promoting Consistency in page naming, when in fact it seems to represent a departure from several key policies. Of course consensus can change, but the immediate result will be a reduction in overall consistency. If the eventual result is to revise the other tree of life conventions, only then will consistency be restored. Andrewa (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

The naming convention for plants has been in use for several years. Since plants lack the sort of "formal common names" that birds, for example, have, it's really difficult to use "common names" consistently. Not only do many plants have multiple common names, very many have none. To make matters worse, the same common name is used for quite a few species. It's an unworkable mess. Hence our preference for scientific names. Guettarda (talk) 20:06, 12 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
(edit conflict) There is a difference in local and global consistency; here at least, the case that the current title violates local consistency (other plants are under the scientific name) is more clear-cut than that for global consistency (other articles do use "common" names). Note that the article mentions more than one vernacular name for this species. I think you'll find extensive discussions of this issue in the archives of WT:PLANTS. Ucucha 20:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of life#Common and scientific names (again). Andrewa (talk) 22:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)Reply
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Image not an Ostrich Fern

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The image currently in the upper left corner, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Osterich_Fern_Foliage.jpg, does not appear to be an Ostrich Fern. It appears to be a Spinulose Wood Fern or related variety. 64.179.35.92 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC).Reply

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Spore-bearing structures

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"... , so named for the large spore bearing structures resembling ostrich feathers"

This claim implied that the specific epithet, struthiopteris, was based on the resemblance of the sporangia (spore-bearing structures) to ostrich feathers. No source was cited, and the claim conflicted with what is written in the "Description" section, in which it is explained that the common name, "ostrich fern", is based on the resemblance of the sterile fronds to ostrich plumes.

I have found and added a reliable source for the "sterile fronds" explanation, and removed the conflicting "sporangia" claim. Maidenhair (talk) 11:24, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply