Talk:Martinique macaw

Orphaned references in Martinique macaw

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Martinique macaw's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Woods":

• From Ara (genus): Williams, Matthew I.; David W. Steadman (2001). "The historic and prehistoric distribution of parrots (Psittacidae) in the West Indies". In Woods, Charles A. and Florence E. Sergile (eds.) (ed.). Biogeography of the West Indies: Patterns and Perspectives (pdf) (2nd ed.). Boca Raton, Florida: CRC Press. pp. 175–189. ISBN 0-8493-2001-1. {{cite book}}: |editor= has generic name (help)
• From Lesser Antillean macaw: Williams, M. I.; D. W. Steadman (2001). "The historic and prehistoric distribution of parrots (Psittacidae) in the West Indies". In Woods, Charles A. and Florence E. Sergile (eds.) (ed.). Biogeography of the West Indies: Patterns and Perspectives (pdf) (2nd ed.). Boca Raton, Florida: CRC Press. pp. 175–189. ISBN 0-8493-2001-1. {{cite book}}: |editor= has generic name (help)
• From Saint Croix macaw: Williams, Matthew I. (2001). "The historic and prehistoric distribution of parrots (Psittacidae) in the West Indies". In Woods, Charles A. and Florence E. Sergile (eds.) (ed.). Biogeography of the West Indies: Patterns and Perspectives (pdf) (2nd ed.). Boca Raton, Florida: CRC Press. pp. 175–189. ISBN 0-8493-2001-1. {{cite book}}: |editor= has generic name (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

Reference named "Olson":

• From Saint Croix macaw: Olson, Storrs L. (2008). "New evidence of Ara autochthones from an archeological site in Puerto Rico: a valid species of West Indian macaw of unknown geographical origin (Aves: Psittacidae)" (pdf). Caribbean Journal of Science. 44 (2): 215–222. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
• From Cuban macaw: Olson, S. L.; Maíz López, E. J. (2008). "New evidence of Ara autochthones from an archaeological site in Puerto Rico: a valid species of West Indian macaw of unknown geographical origin (Aves: Psittacidae)" (pdf). Caribbean Journal of Science. 44 (2): 215–222.
• From Lesser Antillean macaw: Olson, S. L.; E. J. Maíz López (2008). "New evidence of Ara autochthones from an archeological site in Puerto Rico: a valid species of West Indian macaw of unknown geographical origin (Aves: Psittacidae)" (pdf). Caribbean Journal of Science. 44 (2): 215–222.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 00:25, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Martinique macaw/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs) 10:49, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

• I propose to review this article and will start doing so shortly. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:49, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

First reading

As usual, a competent, well-written article. Some points, mostly on the prose:

• Wikilink extinct, endemic,

Done. FunkMonk (talk) 21:24, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

• "... actually blue-and-yellow macaws (Ara ararauna). Ara erythrura, another blue and yellow macaw ..." - It is unsatisfactory ending the first sentence with a scientific name and starting the next with another one. The full stop in between is difficult to detect.

Better? FunkMonk (talk) 21:24, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

• "The Martinique amazon (Amazona martinicana) of the same island, was described under similar circumstances." - Can you explain this a bit more fully?

Better? FunkMonk (talk) 21:24, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

• "A 1626 painting by Roelant Savery shows a blue and yellow macaw alongside a dodo, which is different from the mainland bird in having yellow undertail covert feathers instead of blue, but its origin is unknown." - This sentence is a bit confusing, both as to whether the macaw or the dodo is being referred to and as to what is being described as unknown?

Better? FunkMonk (talk) 21:24, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

• "It is considered the same as the Martinique macaw today, if either has ever existed." - Its not clear what "It" refers to in this sentence.

Better? FunkMonk (talk) 21:24, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

• "... on these islands mention distinct, endemic species, ..." - Perhaps "refer to" would be better.

Done. FunkMonk (talk) 21:24, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

• "... they could have been escaped individuals ..." - Does this "they" refer to the "historical records" mentioned earlier in the sentence?

Added "based on", better? FunkMonk (talk) 21:29, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

• "As many as thirteen extinct macaws have at times been suggested to have lived on the islands until recently." - This sentence is confusing.

Removed "at times", better? FunkMonk (talk) 21:29, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

• "Cuban macaw" - needs a scientific name.

Done. FunkMonk (talk) 21:29, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

• What are "subfossils"?

Fossils too young to be fully mineralised, is the wikilink not enough? FunkMonk (talk) 21:24, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

• • That's all for now. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:23, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll fix these later today. FunkMonk (talk) 14:19, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Second reading

Thepoints i raised above have been resolved. Reading through the article again I saw:

• "It is unlikely that it will ever be known what Bouton actually saw." - This might be better phrased as "Exactly what Boulton was describing is likely to remain a mystery".

Changed. FunkMonk (talk) 12:05, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

• "Ara erythrura is considered the same as the Martinique macaw today, if either has ever existed." - How about "If either bird ever existed, Ara erythrura is likely to be identical to the Martinique macaw.

Changed. FunkMonk (talk) 12:05, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

• On my screen, the text is pinched between the dodo image and the tazobox, and the single word "description" appears below the dodo image as the only part of the text not sandwiched between the two. You might consider moving the dodo image.

Not to me, we may have set different thumbnail/text size settings, or different screen types...

• The caption "Unidentified parrot supposedly from Jamaica, which may be this bird" could state "Martinique macaw" rather than "this bird".

Changed. FunkMonk (talk) 12:05, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

• Nearly there. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:29, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

GA criteria

• The article is well written and complies with MOS guidelines on prose and grammar, structure and layout.
• The article uses many reliable third-party sources, and makes frequent citations to them. I do not believe it contains original research.
• The article covers the main aspects of the subject and remains focussed.
• The article is neutral.
• The article is stable.
• The images are relevant and have suitable captions, and are either in the public domain or properly licensed.

• Final assessment - I believe this article reaches the GA criteria. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:18, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! FunkMonk (talk) 10:20, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

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