Talk:Mark Wales

Latest comment: 2 months ago by TechnoSquirrel69 in topic Source sift

Recognition section

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Until a couple of years ago, there was an Australian government information site where you could check what people had received honours for, including military decorations (it was called itsanhonour.gov.au but it seems to have disappeared). I've figured out what decorations this subject would have received, just from following the unit history and so on, and I've set that out below, but would really appreciate it if there were other editors who know how to get relevant information about this.

 
Australian Active Service Medal with 3 clasps: East Timor, Iraq and ICAT
 
Afghanistan Medal Operation SLIPPER
 
Iraq Medal
 
Australian Service Medal with 3 clasps for Lebanon, Solomon Islands and Counter Terrorism / Special Recovery
 
Australian Defence Medal
 
United Nations Medal with UNAMET ribbon for active service in Timor-Leste (East Timor).
 
NATO Medal for the Non-Article 5 ISAF Operation in Afghanistan With clasp ISAF and Multi-tour Indicator 2.
 
Timor-Leste Solidarity Medal

MatthewDalhousie (talk) 06:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Abraham, B.S. and @Nford24 I've noticed you have some capabilities in this area, would love to have your input.

Source sift

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Hi @TechnoSquirrel69. Taking note of the flag you put up, I'm doing a sift back through the sources.

Decided to reacquaint myself with the content guideline WP:RS first. Am assuming the articles from Australian Broadcasting Corporation, Special Broadcasting Service, The Australian and The West Australian and the like are all okay. Likewise the books by Chris Masters and Ben Mckelvey. Certainly, I've tried to lead with these secondary sources.

Again with the content guideline in mind, where I've used primary sources, such as memoir or interview I've tried to make it clear in that particular section is what the subject has said, so, I've used language like "He recalled" or "in interview" and "Wales has said." From my reading of the WP guidance, primary sources are okay, so long as secondary sources are preferred, and so long as the article doesn't attempt to "interpret." I have taken the direction of the guideline when it comes to quotes, that they can come from a primary source.

Where there was a bold factual claim, and the only source was the subject in interview, and it's not supported at all by a secondary source, then I've decided it should probably be removed. Such as very precise details about munitions.

However, if I've been able to bolster the primary source with a secondary source (such as an article I have located in the The Daily Telegraph which supports the primary source claim that the subject taught at Duntroon in 2011) I've done that.

Hoping that the article is in better shape as a result. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 09:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@MatthewDalhousie: Thanks for your contributions to this article! The main reason I tagged this article was the citations to The Daily Telegraph (Sydney), which is designated as unreliable by the Wikipedia community. The many Apple Podcasts references also give me pause, but I'd have to look more closely to decide if they're reliable or not. Let me know if you have any questions./ TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 20:46, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
@TechnoSquirrel69 - ooh. Actually didn't know the Tele was deprecated! Almost all the material those couple of articles can be sourced from more reliable sources. Shall remedy. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 23:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
@TechnoSquirrel69 okay - that's all done. Thanks for the prompt. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 23:45, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Appreciate you doing that — you can feel free to remove the banner from the article if you feel like all of the other citations are solid. TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 23:50, 15 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
@TechnoSquirrel69Shall do. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 00:06, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also, I appreciate the pings, but I'm subscribed to this thread and will receive a notification without you having to do so. :) TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 00:11, 16 April 2024 (UTC)Reply