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Reviewer: Cavie78 (talk · contribs) 20:46, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

I'll take this one Cavie78 (talk) 20:46, 17 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Lead

  • Do we need a list of the Billboard singles?
  • Regarding the Strul link, you shouldn't use inline links to other language wikis per WP:ILL "because it hides the fact that the English Wikipedia is missing that article, and because it can be very unexpected for someone who doesn't speak German to suddenly be sent to a German page"
  • "She and Gessle later reunited to record more albums as Roxette, who embarked on a worldwide concert tour." Think it would be better to say "She and Gessle later reunited to record more albums as Roxette, and the pair embarked on a worldwide concert tour." Having said that, it seems odd that you highlight this specific tour when you don't mention any of Roxette's other tours/Fredriksson's solo tours or tours with her first bands.
  • Changed to your phrasing. About the latter point, I created the article for The Neverending World Tour, and recreated the articles for Join the Joyride! Tour and Crash! Boom! Bang! Tour, but could never find enough sources to recreate articles for either the Look Sharp! Live or Room Service tours, or for any of Fredriksson's solo tours. Maybe someday. But The Neverending World Tour (an umbrella name for a series of concert tours) was pretty much what Marie spent the last decade of her life doing, so thought it appropriate to include a mention in the lead. Let me know if you disagree with this and I'll find a workaround. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions)

Early Life

  • Do you know the name of the musical she co-wrote?

Early Work

  • Use (English: Hassle) not (transl. Hassle) for any translations
  • No need to use speechmarks with festival names
  • "Due to the success of the festival, she opted" I know you've said "Fredriksson" in the previous sentence, but it would be better to say "Due to the success of the festival, Fredriksson opted"
  • Any reason why Fredriksson dropped to playing keyboards in MaMas Barn and Sternhufvud took on lead vocals? Did Fredriksson sing at all in the group? It seems odd to describe Sternhufvud as vocalist, given that you've previously called him a guitarist. Make it clear that he moved to vocals and Fredriksson moved to keyboards.
  • Seems slightly strange that you mention Strul getting a record contract at the end of the first paragraph, then mention it again a few sentences later.

Solo work and Roxette

  • "Her third studio album" again, you should say Fredriksson for clarity -> "Fredriksson's third studio album"

Roxette's international breakthrough

  • If Roxette didn't have a record contract in the US, how did it get in the Billboard Hot 100? You shouldn't write too much about The Look story, but I think we need more than there is at the minute.
  • "The parent album" -> "The single's parent album'
  • ""Listen to Your Heart" was their second number one" -> ""Listen to Your Heart" was the band's second number one"
  • "In 1990, she contributed a cover" -> "In 1990, Fredriksson contributed a cover"

Continued solo work

  • "Den ständiga resan (The Eternal Journey) was released that October" This should really be set up - "Fredriksson's fourth solo album, Den ständiga resan (English: The Eternal Journey), was released that October"
  • "and most critically successful studio album" -> "and most critically successful solo studio album"
  • "she was a featured vocalist in Bolyos' band" -> "she was a featured vocalist with Bolyos' band"
  • "so refused to publicly promote it" Refuse makes it sound like her record company tried to force her to promote the album? Maybe "was unable to". "felt she could not" or "decided not to" would be better? Don't think there's any need for the word "publicly" here, you can't really promote something in private
  • "Prior to its release" Because you mention "Waiting for the Rain" just beforehand, I think it would be better to say "Prior to the album's release" for clarity
  • "which saw Fredriksson obtaining full control of the copyrights to her entire discography" -> "which saw Fredriksson obtain the copyright for her entire solo discography"
  • "It was also one of the best-selling albums of 2001" -> "It was also one of the best-selling albums of 2001 in the country"
  • Changed all these. Nice catch on point 5, by the way. The sort of silly mistake you makes when you edit an article for 2 months. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions)

Brain tumour diagnosis and aftermath

  • "She collapsed in a bathroom after becoming nauseated" -> "She collapsed in a bathroom after becoming nauseous"
  • "which was the first event Fredriksson appeared after" -> "which was the first event Fredriksson appeared at after"
  • "and one of the very few public" -> "and one of very few public"

Return to creativity

  • Ok

Return to touring, Roxette reunion and Nu!

  • "which became Fredriksson's" -> "and became Fredriksson's"

Final years

  • Ok

Personal life

  • Ok

Death

  • "Fredriksson died on 9 December 2019. She was diagnosed with a brain tumor in 2002, and died following a 17-year battle with cancer at the age of 61" This seems odd, given that you've already mentioned the brain tumour. Maybe "Fredriksson died on 9 December 2019 at the age of 61, following a 17 year long battle with cancer after her 2002 brain tumor diagnosis"
  • Thank you for the alternate phrasing. There's been quite a bit of debate on how to phrase this sentence. Your wording seems perfect. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions)
  • Did Gessle attend the funeral? I ask because you've only just said he wasn't invited to Fredriksson's wedding so "closest friends" may, or may not, imply he attended.
  • An attendee list has never been divulged. But after some further research, it seems as though it was a "silent funeral", with only her immediate family in attendance. I've changed the article text to reflect this. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions)

Images

  • All look good and have appropriate licences, but I wonder if you could find an image for the infobox that shows her whole face? The microphone is quite distracting

Sources

  • Look good - very well researched!
All in all a really well written article. Placing on hold until my relatively minor concerns are dealth with Cavie78 (talk) 16:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the review, and I'm sorry it has taken me this long to respond. I'm not as active on Wikipedia as I used to be. I believe I've addressed all of your concerns, but let me know if there's anything else I can do. Thanks again. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 01:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for your responses. The only thing I'd say is that I think the opening paragraph about MaMas Barn could be clearer. Maybe "Following Strul's breakup, Fredriksson and Sternhufvud formed a new band, MaMas Barn. The two were the only permanent members, with Sternhufvud moving to vocals and Fredriksson to keyboards"? Cavie78 (talk) 10:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, I swore I did this. But I've used your wording now. Sorry for the confusion. Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 00:57, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Excellent, thanks. The first album I owned was Tourism on cassette, so it's nice to see this article be promoted. Congrats Cavie78 (talk) 15:26, 22 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Thank you for the review. Coincidentally, the first CD I ever owned was Tourism (a gift from "Santa Claus", Xmas '92). I was just gonna send you a thanks for promoting, but Tourism also being the first album you owned was such a strange coincidence that I had to respond. I hope to bring that album to GA one day... maybe after its 25th Anniversary Edition is released? And good luck with the GA backlog drive. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk/contributions) 00:01, 24 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Haha, quite the coincidence! Good luck with future articles. Feel free to ping me if you need reviewers Cavie78 (talk) 19:30, 25 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
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