Talk:Mariano Trías

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Wtmitchell in topic Cabinet positions
Former good article nomineeMariano Trías was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
November 23, 2006Good article nomineeNot listed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 26, 2006.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that pop singer Jasmine Trias is a descendant of Mariano Trias, the Vice President of the Tejeros Convention?

Failed GA edit

This article has failed the GA nominations. Please consider the following suggestions for improvment.

Hope this helps. Tarret 00:41, 24 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

DESCENDANTS edit

Please provide the direct descendants of the General like his children and grandchildren. The General's children have also done wonderful things to help the province and country in general. I noticed that the descendants was focused to his brother to link the relationship to Jazmine Trias. While I am glad to see the lineage of the "idol star", Jazmine Trias is not a direct descendant to the General. Please clear this issue. Thank You and may we see an addition tot he article as soon as possible.

J. McCaffrey 10-25-09 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.204.152.102 (talk) 06:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Cabinet positions edit

This edit caught my eye. That led me to look at the points in the lead and in the infobox where has info about the article mentions cabinet positions held by Trias. In the infobox, I saw these positions set forth as:

  • [[Secretary of Finance (Philippines)|Minister of Finance]]
  • [[Secretary of National Defense (Philippines)|Minister of National Defense]]

A primary source, the Malolos Constitution (as published by the current Philippine government) says, in part:

Title IX — On the Secretaries of Government

Article 73 The Council of Government shall be composed of a President and seven Secretaries, who shall be put in charge of the portfolios of: Foreign Relations,

Interior, Finance, War and the Navy, Public Instruction, Public Works and Communications, Agriculture, Industries and Commerce.[1]

A reliable secondary source titled "MASTER LIST OF CABINET SECRETARIES/MINISTERS" (published by the current Philippine government) which lists current and historical holders of those articles lists Mariano Trías as having held two positions with the nomenclature of Secretary heading departments with the nomenclatures of Department of Finance (1/2/1899 – 5/7/1899) and Department of War (5/7/1899 – 11/13/1899).[2]

From these and other sources, I believe that it would be appropriate in this article to use the position titles Secretary of Finance and Secretary of War for those Malolos Republic cabinet positions which Trias held. I have edited the article to reflect that, citing the second of the two sources mentioned above in support. I have also edited the dates in office in those positions in the infobox to agree with the dates shown in that source.

I don't believe that there is a close enough association between those positions which Trias held in 1899 and cabinet positions with portfolios in Finance and National Defense in the current Philippine governemt to warrent wikilinking references to those positions held by Trias with WP articles about those departments in the current Philippine government. Accordingly, I have removed those wikilinks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 03:43, 20 October 2016 (UTC)Reply