Talk:Mardi Gras in the United States
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Lafayette, Second largest Mardi Gras in La.
editLafayette is considered the second largest Mardi Gras in the state because of the size of the parades and the amount of people who come to town for the event. Houma would possibly be the 3rd largest. 250,000 people are estimated to come to Lafayette, 150,000 to Houma. The number of parades is not the determining factor. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 15:43, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Separate Traditions???
edit“ | Because of the French colonial history of the settlements, the earliest celebrations occurred in Mobile, Alabama, Biloxi, Mississippi and New Orleans, Louisiana, which have each developed separate traditions. | ” |
I don't understand the preceding statement because the cities referenced have similar traditions. --Webdevology (talk) 04:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Each is a little differant, altho in recent years many cities have started to emulate the NOLA traditions because of the popularity of the Mardi Gras there. Many cities in the rest of French South Louisiana have seperate, distinct Mardi Gras traditions, each town varying a little. Might be better to use some of them as examples.Heironymous Rowe (talk) 04:51, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Can you explain the separate, distinct traditions? I'm not disagreeing, just interested...they all seem the same to me except for the amount of celebrating (I'm from South Mississippi).--Webdevology (talk) 05:42, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Here in Cajun country, each little town has its own unique Mardi Gras tradition, most involving a Courir de Mardi Gras, or "Ride of the Mardi Gras", a tradition not found in NOLA or Mobile. Masked riders in special costumes involving pointy hats ride from farmhouse to farmhouse collecting ingredients for a communal gumbo. Some towns wear masks as part of the costume. At least one uses face paint. Some allow women as riders, some traditoins have a men only policy. Other members of the community follow the riders around as they get drunk and carouse, chase chickens for the gumbo, etc. See Mardi Gras in the United States#Other Louisiana cities for more and illustrations or here [1]. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 05:51, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Added a pic of Courirs chasing chickens. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 05:56, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- I remember reading about the Mardi Gras ride a few years ago but I didn't realize that it was still practiced. My husband is from New Iberia and he didn't either. Sounds like a lot of fun...thanks for sharing.--Webdevology (talk) 01:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- Dont know about New Iberia, but Eunice, Basile, Scott, Mamou, and alot of the other Prairie Cajus west and north of Lafayette still do. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 01:25, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- And for anyone who might still be interested, a new article Courir de Mardi Gras about the subject. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 05:13, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- Dont know about New Iberia, but Eunice, Basile, Scott, Mamou, and alot of the other Prairie Cajus west and north of Lafayette still do. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 01:25, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- I remember reading about the Mardi Gras ride a few years ago but I didn't realize that it was still practiced. My husband is from New Iberia and he didn't either. Sounds like a lot of fun...thanks for sharing.--Webdevology (talk) 01:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- Added a pic of Courirs chasing chickens. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 05:56, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Here in Cajun country, each little town has its own unique Mardi Gras tradition, most involving a Courir de Mardi Gras, or "Ride of the Mardi Gras", a tradition not found in NOLA or Mobile. Masked riders in special costumes involving pointy hats ride from farmhouse to farmhouse collecting ingredients for a communal gumbo. Some towns wear masks as part of the costume. At least one uses face paint. Some allow women as riders, some traditoins have a men only policy. Other members of the community follow the riders around as they get drunk and carouse, chase chickens for the gumbo, etc. See Mardi Gras in the United States#Other Louisiana cities for more and illustrations or here [1]. Heironymous Rowe (talk) 05:51, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Can you explain the separate, distinct traditions? I'm not disagreeing, just interested...they all seem the same to me except for the amount of celebrating (I'm from South Mississippi).--Webdevology (talk) 05:42, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
How about some PHOTOS?
editWe have a wealth of photos available on Wikimedia Commons for New Orleans and Mobile Mardi Gras. We have a couple of sets of pix from Baton Rouge, and one set of a parade in Chalmette. Beyond that, we have only a scattered few of some celebrations elsewhere in Louisiana (but none at all for Lafayette nor Houma, which the text suggests are some of the most important). We have less than a handful of rather sad pix from Texas. Beyond that... it looks like nothing. How about we get some? Does anyone who attends or has attended any of these other Mardi Gras own a camera, or have a friend who does and might be persuaded to upload some photos under a free license? -- Infrogmation (talk) 19:41, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Iberville : the spot Point du Mardi Gras
editneed geo co-ords 172.56.42.132 (talk) 03:44, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
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The false story of mardi gras
editThe false story of Mdi Gras 66 miles above New Orleans didn't originate until after mobile posted a billboard in New Orleans as the 1st mardi gras. It was fabricated then in the 2000s. 2600:100D:B107:77E2:90DF:767:D1C0:B0AA (talk) 18:30, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
- The story of Mardi Gras observed below New Orleans in the 17th century was discussed by the noted historian Carl Brasseaux in the documentary Dance for a Chicken that was released around 1993. 2600:1008:B068:7474:0:4C:3D58:7101 (talk) 22:38, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
- You are right that this story is older than the 2000s - you are also right to use the word "observation" instead of "celebration." The journal of Pierre Le Moyne D'Iberville mentions no celebration taking place. The article as it stands is incorrect. Gmullis98 (talk) 02:33, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Misrepresentation of Point Du Mardi Gras évents
editReferring to this passage: "The earliest Carnival celebration in North America are said to have occurred at a place on the west bank of the Mississippi River about 60 miles (97 km) downriver from where New Orleans is today. This Mardi Gras was celebrated on March 3, 1699, and in honor of this holiday, Pierre Le Moyne d'Iberville, a 38-year-old French Canadian, named the spot Point du Mardi Gras (French: "Mardi Gras Point") near Fort Jackson."
The journal of Pierre Le Moyne D'Iberville, the source of this claim, makes no mention of any celebration. This was, perhaps, the first "observance" of Mardi Gras - and even that is pretty generous - but certainly not the first "celebration". There was no celebration. In his journal, D'Iberville only mentions that he named the area "Point du Mardi Gras" when he realized what day it was when he made camp there.
The reason I say that calling this the first "observation" of Mardi Gras in North America is generous is because that is a spurious claim as well. D'Iberville merely observed Mardi Gras by noting the date as being the day before lent. If this is the litmus test for what a Mardi Gras observation is, then the first observation would have been long before 1699 - either in the Caribbean or Canada a century earlier, or by earlier French expeditions.
This section either needs to be removed or it needs to be heavily revised to include these facts. Gmullis98 (talk) 01:25, 27 July 2024 (UTC)