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Latest comment: 6 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion
""The defence of the German border with armed force" against asylum seekers."
Nope that's not what he said. Usage of firearms against illegal intruders is already in the law. The debate was a media initiated storm in the tea cup. --41.151.18.127 (talk) 00:18, 25 December 2016 (UTC)Reply
The final sentence states "During a speech at an AfD party convention in Essen, 4–5 July 2015, he said, 'We had the discussion about whether we were the Euro party or the Pegida party. We are both'." The citation provided is to an article in Stern. However, that article never quotes (or even mentions) Pretzell, so clearly, it's not a valid source. Furthermore, according to Frauke Petry, the phrase being ascribed to Pretzell was selectively shortened to give the impression of AfD and PEGIDA being somehow equal partners or philosophically the same. According to Petry, what Pretzell actually said was "We had the discussion about whether we were the Euro Party or the PEGIDA Party. We are both, and much more." (quote begins at 12:38) That gives a considerably different impression than the truncated quote supplied here. Bricology (talk) 11:02, 17 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
The final sentence states "During a speech at an AfD party convention in Essen, 4–5 July 2015, he said, 'We had the discussion about whether we were the Euro party or the Pegida party. We are both'." The citation provided is to an article in Stern. However, that article never quotes (or even mentions) Pretzell, so clearly, it's not a valid source. Furthermore, according to Frauke Petry, the phrase being ascribed to Pretzell was selectively shortened to give the impression of AfD and PEGIDA being somehow equal partners or philosophically the same. According to Petry, what Pretzell actually said was "We had the discussion about whether we were the Euro Party or the PEGIDA Party. We are both, and much more." (quote begins at 12:38) That gives a considerably different impression than the truncated quote supplied here. Bricology (talk) 11:02, 17 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
