Talk:Marbled crayfish

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Requested move 5 February 2018

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The result of the move request was: consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 20:11, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

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Marmorkrebs → Marbled crayfish – WP:USEENGLISH. While there's a connection between the subject and the German-speaking world, this is a species native to the United States with an unambiguous, recognizable English name. --BDD (talk) 20:00, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

• Are we sure these pests are native to the US? The article may be incomplete because it doesn't yet say that. The first source in the article p114 makes it clear that this is a mutation of Procambarus fallax, okay, but did the mutation originate in Florida or Germany? In ictu oculi (talk) 23:49, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
  • The latest sources suggest in Germany: An aquarium accident may have given this crayfish the DNA to take over the world & Clonal genome evolution and rapid invasive spread of the marbled crayfish Note that the German authors of this paper do not call it by the original German name. --Küchenkraut (talk) 13:12, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

• Even if we can say for sure that the mutation occurred in Germany, the most relevant question given our naming conventions is whether Marmorkrebs is the common name in English. That German authors would not use it in a Nature journal—thanks for that source, Küchenkraut—points strongly to "no". --BDD (talk) 15:30, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

The current most-prevalent name of this creature is "Marbled crayfish". Verify this with a Google search.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:35, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

• I agree. This page should be titled "Marbled crayfish". Sushilover2000 (talk) 23:24, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

• Agree. Use the common English name Newystats (talk) 04:56, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

• Move, as its common name, especially now with its increase in mainstream (heh) coverage. JesseRafe (talk) 17:24, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
• Support - per WP:USEENGLISH and WP:COMMONNAME. -Zanhe (talk) 19:59, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
• Support, because in English, it would be a more universally understood name. Keep the old name, too. -Mardus /talk 13:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

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marbledcrayfish.com extlink

No opinion of the pagemove proposal but the marbledcrayfish.com extlink is spammy in my opinion and I'd like to remove it (or maybe someone else can). The marmorkrebs.org one is a lot more science-oriented and better in general, so I suggest using just that one. Any objections? I resisted adding "see also" internal links to tribbles and ice-nine. :) 173.228.123.121 (talk) 09:12, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Removed. -Zanhe (talk) 20:00, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Taxon/taxobox

That probably needs to adjusted as of the end of last year the marbled crayfish is considered as its own species:

• https://biotaxa.org/Zootaxa/article/view/zootaxa.4363.4.6

--Kmhkmh (talk) 23:33, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Better description of species needed

What size are thesecrayfish? What do they eat? Have they developed any new traits significantly different from their parent species? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NeilDD (talk • contribs) 13:19, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

It is in the article they "lost" sexual reproduction.--Kmhkmh (talk) 13:06, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

How big are they, and what do they taste like?

Midgley (talk) 12:02, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Saltwater or Freshwater?

The article should say that in the head. --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 05:44, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

A crayfish is always preferring fresh water.--Quisqualis (talk) 23:00, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Genetics??

OK, I am pretty sure that a triploid parthenogenic species needs to have a section about its genetics and problems arsing from the absence of genetic recombination. I also suggest translating some of the German and French articles to fill omissions in this article. ♆ CUSH ♆ 23:48, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Regulation

The state of Ohio should be added to list of states that have made marbled crayfish illegal. 198.27.181.30 (talk) 02:19, 21 December 2022 (UTC)