Talk:Marans

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An IP asserts that the infobox image, File:Cuckoo Marans.jpg, is not a Marans at all, but a barred Plymouth Rock. I don't agree, but I'm no expert on either breed. So ping Steven Walling and PigeonIP for their views. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 08:09, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: Were you refering to File:Cuckoo Marans.jpg? It is not a Plymouth Rock. Those have yellow/orange feet. [1][2] The feet of cuckoo/barred Marans are "hautfarben" (skin coloured/white - I don't know the exact english term; EE-Standard in German) --PigeonIP (talk) 09:29, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Dual purpose and characteristic of value of the eggs

Justlettersandnumbers About my changes. Chickens are raised by a farmer/ industrial production facility already with a specific purpose in mind – either meat or egg production. An egg producer raises chickens for egg production; whereas a chicken meat producer will raise chickens for meat production. Birds raised for meat are slaughtered when they reach the desired weight. At the level of a production facility, therefore, these chickens are single-purpose, just like peaches, with peaches at a juice facility, with the single purpose of being turned into peach juice, and peaches at a jam facility, with the single purpose of being turned into peach jam. It is therefore more accurate to speak of dual-purpose breed rather than dual-purpose chicken. Secondly, When bred for egg production, this is not done so because of the colour of the eggs (barring among enthusiasts) and none of the sources used in the article mentions anything about eggs being produced for their colour. Marans are in fact poor layers when compared with the likes of leghorns etc. If anything, commercially speaking the value of the Marans eggs lies it their size. Have a great day and keep up the hard work. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 09:40, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi, Rui Gabriel Correia! What you say as true of industrial chicken farming as it is untrue of chickens kept by smallholders or hobbyists – which the sources agree are the principal keepers of these birds. Most people who keep a few traditional utility chickens in their garden want to be able to eat a reasonable number of eggs and also to have a bird that tastes good when it's time for it to be eaten. The British poultry standards (both editions) say this is a dual-purpose breed that sits well (Roberts 2008, page 172: " ... a dual-purpose sitting breed" and "Table and laying qualities to be taken carefully into account jointly"; same text in Allonby 2018, page 194). And yes, David Scrivener does say that people raise these birds for the colour of their eggs (" ... one of the most popular hobbyists’ breeds because of their egg colour") and that although the birds are rarely entered in poultry shows, plates of the eggs often win prizes (opening paragraph – sorry, no page numbers, I have an ePub edition that isn't properly paginated). Good point about the egg size! Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:17, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Interesting point about "smallholders or hobbyists – which the sources agree are the principal keepers of these birds". I was looking from the perspective of the production of Marans in France, on the assumption that as a French breed, that would be where the greatest number of these birds would be reared. I could not access Scrivener, other than locating the book in GoogleBooks and typing search words. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 08:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC)