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November 2007
editPls, do watch the video. The famous program presented by one of the icons of Brazilian journalism, Marilia Gabriela, mentions Claudia Raia and Simone herself.
- My editions is a translation. It is not polite to mention what a couple does within their private life, or their sons --this is meddle. Lulu Margarida yes? 19:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
http://lailols.blogspot.com/2007/07/patrulhas-caretas-e-inspiraes-sinceras.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lulu Margarida (talk • contribs) 20:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
- On the first point, you need a source if you're going to include Simone and Claudia Raia. The video does not make explicit and the source above does not talk about Simone or Claudia Raia. I'm not disputing that they supported Collor, I'm just asking for a source, that's all. On the second point, wikipedia is not about being polite or impolite. This isn't "meddling". If you're going to bring up the issue of Pêra supporting Collor, then there's no reason not to mention the rest of the story as the source did. And your argument about "private life" has a flaw--if this letter was really between Pêra and her ex-husband, one of them would need to make public the fact that the letter was written, which implies they did not see an issue with privacy. Considering she agreed to the interview with the journalist who mentioned the letter in the first place, it would follow that Pêra did not find the issue to be private enough to tell the journalist in advance not to mention said letter. I mean, I could go on and on, but the bottom line is your argument against the content is specious at best--if you concede that the fact that her colleagues criticized her for her support for Collor merits inclusion, it is logical to also mention that her husband wrote a letter specifically prohibiting her from involving their children with Collor.--Dali-Llama 23:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
"Suele"
editAccording to most of the sources I've seen, the name of the character is "Sueli".213.127.210.95 (talk) 21:14, 3 December 2017 (UTC)