Talk:María Elva Pinckert/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Steelkamp (talk · contribs) 13:59, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Good article criteria

Well written

• Does the Chamber of Industry and Commerce mean the Chamber of Industry and Commerce of Bolivia, the Chamber of Industry and Commerce of Santa Cruz, or the Chamber of Industry and Commerce of Montero, or something else. Just trying to get an idea of the scope of it. Steelkamp (talk) 17:01, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Reading the source, it seems to be the Santa Cruz Chamber of Industry and Commerce. I recommend changing that to ... Pinckert held office as vice president of the Santa Cruz Chamber of Industry and Commerce. Steelkamp (talk) 15:03, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
    • Agreed. CAINCO is such a ubiquitous company compared to its departmental counterparts that I hadn't thought to specify. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
• two posts of particular import. I assume that's meant to say "importance". Steelkamp (talk) 17:01, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
  • 'Import' can be used to mean 'importance' but I can change it to latter if you so wish. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
    • I think it's best to change as importance is a more common word in that context, but this is pretty minor and I won't hold up the review for this. Steelkamp (talk) 05:21, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

       Done Krisgabwoosh (talk) 06:04, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

• Though elected as a substitute councillor, she exercised the titular role as the original incumbent held the mayor's office. This is confusing to me. Could it be reworded? Steelkamp (talk) 17:01, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Tried to clarify; it gets trick as I understand the word 'titular' has different connotations in Spanish and English. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
• which postulated the NFR's leader, Manfred Reyes Villa, for the presidency. Postulated isn't a common word word in this context (I had to google the meaning). Could it be replaced with "nominated"?
  • Replaced with 'ran'. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
• I had to google what "Cruceño" meant. Can that be put in a note that it's the demonym for Santa Cruz? Steelkamp (talk) 17:01, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Rephrased entirely. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
• Should Beni link to Beni Department? Steelkamp (talk) 17:01, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Sure. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
• Is that the highest deforestation rate in the world, or just South America? Looking at the source, should more than double that of other countries become more than double that of neighboring countries. Steelkamp (talk) 17:01, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Agreed, that's clearer. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
• A good rule for leads is to include something from every section of the article. There is nothing currently in the lead for the "Flight from the country" section. Steelkamp (talk) 17:01, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Rewrote lead. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Verifiable with no original research

• Refs 7, 27, 29, 30 and 31 give me an access denied message when I try to access them. Does the same happen to you, or is that website geoblocked? Steelkamp (talk) 15:03, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Given that those all stem from the same website (oep.org.bo), it seems that they're geoblocked for you, though I couldn't guess why. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
    • In that case, I'll assume good faith that the website verifies the information its used to cite. Steelkamp (talk) 05:21, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Broad in its coverage

• Nothing much there on her personal life. It mentions she has a husband. When did they marry? Did they have any children? Steelkamp (talk) 15:03, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
  • There's a brief mention of her husband and children in one of the sources but it's likely too short to merit its own dedicated section. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
• Article ends in 2021 with Pinckert being granted 90 days asylum in Brazil. Are there any updates on this? Steelkamp (talk) 15:03, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Not as of yet, her whereabouts are currently unknown. However, I suspect we might get an update soon, as the Bolivian government has announced its intent to seek the extradition of former Áñez ministers once Lula takes office early next year. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Neutral

Stable

Illustrated, if possible

• File:María Elva Pinckert Vaca (Official Photo, 2018) Alejandra Vaca, Chamber of Senators of Bolivia.jpg seems fine to me. Steelkamp (talk) 15:01, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
• Can you explain how File:(Signature) María Elva Pinckert.svg falls below the required level of originality for copyright protection in Bolivia? I tried looking at Commons:Commons:When to use the PD-signature tag and Commons:Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Consolidated list South America but couldn't find out whether signatures fall below the required level of originality. Steelkamp (talk) 15:01, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
  • Taking a look at Bolivian Copyright Law, a signature doesn't seem to fit under any of the listed protected works. The closes I could find was "Books, pamphlets, articles and other writings" but given the surrounding context, I think I'm safe to assume that signatures likely don't fall under "other writings", which just means other types of literary work. Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
• This isn't required under the good article criteria, but I recommend adding alt text to all images. Steelkamp (talk) 15:01, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
  •  Done Krisgabwoosh (talk) 17:36, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

General

I'm going to put this review on hold for seven days for you to address the above points. Steelkamp (talk) 15:03, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

• The one remaining thing is pretty minor, so I'm going to go ahead and pass this review. Steelkamp (talk) 05:21, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.