Talk:Mansurat al-Khayt
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Was the land Jewish, or public?
editThe 1945 data, both the original, and the Hadawi version, both state that all the land of Mansurat al-Khayt was publicly owned.
Yet Morris, 2004, p. 374, note #191, p. 406 say the land of Mansurat al-Khayt was Jewish owned in July 1948.
There are two explanations, either:
- A. the land has been sold from the Government to Jewish interests during 1945 to 1948 period. Is this very likely? I thought there was a ban/or restrictions on selling to Jewish interests in that period?
- B. They didn't know, or didn't care, iow, they treated all state land as "Jewish owned",
Comments? Huldra (talk) 22:48, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Huldra: It was in Zone B according to the 1940 Land Transfer Regulations: "The transfer of land situated within Zone B , by a Palestinian Arab save to a Palestinian Arab, shall be prohibited unless the person to whom such transfer is intended to be made has received the approval in writing of the High Commissioner which he may in his unfettered discretion grant or refuse..." (Pal. Gaz. #988-2). The regulations did not apply to sales whose contracts had already been signed and it is plausible that some sales did not make it into the 1945 survey. I note that the Gazette of Aug 1945 refers to title settlement for some parcels of Mansurat al-Khayt land but the details are not given there. Zerotalk 10:00, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Zero0000: Rules about transfer of Palestinian Arab land is not directly relevant here, is it? This is about public land, and if I understand this document correctly, then no public land in Zone B was allowed transferred? To me it looks as if the new Israeli government in July 1948 simply treated all state land as "Jewish land". Also, I am trying to make sense of the other info in that note #191, they mention Yesodot southeast of Aqir, Regavim at Buteimat, at least there there was Jewish land. Huldra (talk) 20:35, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Huldra: Right, the sale of state land was excluded from the 1940 restrictions, though it didn't make a difference since the High Commissioner could approve anything he liked. It could be that state land was sold to Jews in the 1945-8 time period, or it could be that your theory is right. From this room in a centuries-old university college I can't easily search for more information. Zerotalk 21:32, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Zero0000: Ah well, from this room in my centuries-old home: neither can I! :) Huldra (talk) 21:43, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Huldra: Right, the sale of state land was excluded from the 1940 restrictions, though it didn't make a difference since the High Commissioner could approve anything he liked. It could be that state land was sold to Jews in the 1945-8 time period, or it could be that your theory is right. From this room in a centuries-old university college I can't easily search for more information. Zerotalk 21:32, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- @Zero0000: Rules about transfer of Palestinian Arab land is not directly relevant here, is it? This is about public land, and if I understand this document correctly, then no public land in Zone B was allowed transferred? To me it looks as if the new Israeli government in July 1948 simply treated all state land as "Jewish land". Also, I am trying to make sense of the other info in that note #191, they mention Yesodot southeast of Aqir, Regavim at Buteimat, at least there there was Jewish land. Huldra (talk) 20:35, 9 July 2017 (UTC)