Talk:Mansouri attack

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Requested move 10 May 2021

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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 01:03, 18 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Mansouri massacre → Mansouri attack – As with Zrarieh massacre (now moved to Zrarieh raid), Maarakeh massacre (soon to be moved to Maarakeh bombing), and Nabatieh Fawka massacre (which an RM discussion has also been opened for) this is yet another WP:POVNAME for which there is no evidence that "massacre" is the common name. In this case it is very clear that the sources presently cited in the article mostly refer to it as an "attack" or similar. Going through them one-by-one:

1) Human Rights Watch - "helicopter gunship attack"
2) Amnesty - "Attack on ambulance carrying civilians, 13 April 1996"
3) MERIP - "an incident in Mansuri in which a US-made Apache helicopter gunship attacked an ambulance ferrying civilians"
4) Independent (Fisk) - "Israeli helicopter pilot deliberately targeted the ambulance"
5) Journal of Palestine Studies (this is a copy of the Amnesty report)
6) Civil Society Centre - "An Israeli helicopter fired at an ambulance"
7) Howard Friel article - not clear but doesn't use the word "massacre" to describe it.
8) Independent (Fisk, again) - "an ambulance carrying Lebanese civilians was deliberately targeted by an Israeli helicopter"
9) B'tselem - "Attack on an Ambulance Carrying Civilians 13 April 1996"
10) Washington Post - "four children killed by a missile from an Israeli helicopter gunship"
11) Fisk, again, which is just the same as his Independent article.
12) Fisk, again.
13) Bamford - not clear, but doesn't call it a "massacre"
14) Fisk, again.

In as much as there is a common description of this it appears to be simply as a "attack" or similar, particularly the more reliable sources call it this. If further disambiguation is need "Mansouri helicopter gunship attack" is viable but not very concise. FOARP (talk) 20:29, 10 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Support per nomination. The sources cited above are convincing and deciding factors that the term "massacre" is not the WP:COMMONNAME as far as this event's coverage is concerned. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:58, 11 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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