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Feedback from New Page Review process
editI left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Good start.
North8000 (talk) 11:20, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
Article issues
editHello Jwslubbock. Please see the tags in this revision for specific details about the issues with the version that you restored. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 07:56, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for taking this to the talk page. I understand the concern about the awards section sounding promotional but I have tried to take out some unnecessary words that potentially sounded NPoV. But I think that the references to awards are part of the subject's notability and should remain for the time being. Sourcing seems generally ok to me, there's no self published stuff. If there are other issues you think should be improved, I'm happy to look at them. Jwslubbock (talk) 10:18, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Jwslubbock, you're welcome. Your edit did improve some of the NPOV issues, however the sourcing issues are still present. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:36, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, please stop removing credible citations from the page and then stating that sourcing criteria has not been fulfilled -- that is vandalism. 2A00:23C5:E114:2C01:C575:DD9C:133:E934 (talk) 11:01, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- I see you deleted all the sources again @MrsSnoozyTurtle. Can you please raise here on the talk page what you believe is the issue with the sources you are deleting before you just delete them? Without a discussion, it looks like edit warring, and on top of that it looks like you are deleting the awards and achievements of a woman from an underrepresented group. The awards a journalist wins are central to their WP:N, so I really don't understand why you are repeatedly coming to this page to remove the entire reason why a person of colour passes the Notability criteria. Women and people of colour are underrepresented on Wikipedia, and if you are coming to a page like this to delete all the references, you should have a good reason why you are doing this. If you keep doing this without explaining why, I will ask an admin to protect the page. Jwslubbock (talk) 11:30, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
- I hope that the last sentence of yours isn't meant to be a threat?
- It is very frustrating that I try to improve the NPOV and reduce the unsourced text, only to be accused of vandalism and have the edits reverted without regard for WP:ROWN.
- Regarding your request to raise the issues here, that is what I have done in the messages above. In fact it was me who started this Talk Page discussion. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 11:51, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
- What unsourced text are you referring to? You deleted, repeatedly, the entire section on Ganguly's awards, which are a core part of her WP:N. You provided no explanation for why you did this, and you seem to be claiming that the sources used are unreliable, without saying why you believe any of the references are unreliable. This is not how we edit Wikipedia, and you need to be more aware of the challenges Wikipedia faces with regard to the diminishing of achievements of women and people of colour. If you're going to delete all the achievements of a female person of colour, you need to explain why, otherwise it looks bad. So, if you are contesting here that all the sources used in the section on Ganguly's awards are unreliable, I would like you to explicitly identify which sources you believe are unreliable and why. If you can make a good case for this, then we can delete the sources and the facts they cite, but if you can't, we need to leave them there. So, over to you, which of the sources on this page are you contesting? Jwslubbock (talk) 15:16, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
- Please refer to the tags, they are in the revision I posted a link to above when I started this discussion. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 07:09, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
- What unsourced text are you referring to? You deleted, repeatedly, the entire section on Ganguly's awards, which are a core part of her WP:N. You provided no explanation for why you did this, and you seem to be claiming that the sources used are unreliable, without saying why you believe any of the references are unreliable. This is not how we edit Wikipedia, and you need to be more aware of the challenges Wikipedia faces with regard to the diminishing of achievements of women and people of colour. If you're going to delete all the achievements of a female person of colour, you need to explain why, otherwise it looks bad. So, if you are contesting here that all the sources used in the section on Ganguly's awards are unreliable, I would like you to explicitly identify which sources you believe are unreliable and why. If you can make a good case for this, then we can delete the sources and the facts they cite, but if you can't, we need to leave them there. So, over to you, which of the sources on this page are you contesting? Jwslubbock (talk) 15:16, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hello Jwslubbock, you're welcome. Your edit did improve some of the NPOV issues, however the sourcing issues are still present. Regards, MrsSnoozyTurtle 00:36, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Protected edit request on 9 September 2022
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Please delete "last=#". It causes a CS1 error and the article appears on the list at CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list. (One of the vertical lines on either side of this parameter also has to be deleted. Thanks Ira Leviton (talk) 16:53, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Ongoing X dispute
editThere is an ongoing dispute on X regarding this individual’s credibility, particularly concerning some of their claims about the ongoing genocide in Gaza. Some of their reporting has faced significant criticism, notably from Al Jazeera and other reputable sources. I encourage other users to assist in investigating these claims, to help identify and verify sources that challenge their statements. Happyaroundyoubabes (talk) 08:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC) sock strike
Comment: I have reason to suspect that the primary author, Fml657, of this article is Manisha Ganguly herself. All contributions should be thoroughly checked and any unusual activity from such accounts must be monitored concerning academic boosting and conflicts of interest. Happyaroundyoubabes (talk) 09:28, 7 October 2024 (UTC) sock strike
The image added by user Fml657 at 11:21, 15 April 2022 says "Added image taken by me", yet on this website ( https://camri.ac.uk/blog/2021/04/13/manisha-ganguly-named-on-the-forbes-30-under-30-list-for-media-and-marketing-in-europe/) that same image says "Image provided by Manisha Ganguly". This shows that user Fml657 who has done the bulk of the contributions to the article is the subject of the article, indicating conflict of interest editing.sock strikeLikewise, the other major contributor to the page, Jwslubbock, is credited as the photographer (see filename/URL) on (https://blog.westminster.ac.uk/graduateschoolfestival/wp-content/uploads/sites/34/2022/03/Manisha-Ganguly-photo-credit-John-Lubbock-150x150.jpg), suggesting that a close connection is editing the page, again showing conflict of interest editing. Schwebebahn (talk) 11:48, 8 October 2024 (UTC)sock strike
- — Happyaroundyoubabes (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- — Schwebebahn (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- The claim that Fml657 is the subject of the article is, based on the above, entirely without foundation, and illogical. The quote is "Image provided by Manisha Ganguly", not "Image taken by Manisha Ganguly". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:39, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Happyaroundyoubabes, if you believe that an editor has a COI with this article you should take the discussion to WP:COIN. Making wild accusations is not helpful. TarnishedPathtalk 12:45, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing and TarnishedPath: the raised concerns about Fml657's edits are not entirely without merit:
- In this edit, Fml657 states that the picture was taken by them.
- The image, as well as others of Manisha Ganguly, was upload to Commons by Fml22 (notice the similarity of the usernames). M.Bitton (talk) 13:17, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- None of which contradicts what I wrote. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:37, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- That's true, and perhaps, I should have phrased it better as I was only referring to the COI issue of Fml657 (a major contributor to the article). M.Bitton (talk) 13:41, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @M.Bitton, perhaps this would be best discussed at WP:COIN if there are concerns. TarnishedPathtalk 23:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- @TarnishedPath: you're right, but I will leave that to whomever thinks it's worth pursuing. M.Bitton (talk) 01:15, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @M.Bitton, perhaps this would be best discussed at WP:COIN if there are concerns. TarnishedPathtalk 23:59, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- That's true, and perhaps, I should have phrased it better as I was only referring to the COI issue of Fml657 (a major contributor to the article). M.Bitton (talk) 13:41, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing and TarnishedPath: the raised concerns about Fml657's edits are not entirely without merit: