Talk:Manimekhala
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Tamil-Buddhist epic
editThe genre of this epic is simply Tamil-Buddhist. The lack of any Vedantic themes, except a tangential reference to Indic pantheon, there is no legitimacy for reference to 'Hindu' in this article.
Moving Robam Moni Mekhala to Manimekhala
editIt is better explain this dance in Manimekhala. As in Cambodian tradition, there are several dances depicting Moni Mekhala and having articles for all these dances depicting her is just not practical or feasible. --Dara (talk) 22:22, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
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Robam Moni Mekhala is for a dance while Manimekhala is for a goddess
editI wish this article will be accepted as a separate article from Manimekhala. This proposed article is a separate article for a Cambodian traditional dance Robam Moni Mekhla while Manimekhala is an article for a goddess in Hindu and Buddhist mythology. Like there are an article for Apsara and a separate article for Robam Tep Apsara (in Cambodia).
The sources cited are the only available references I can find for the proposed article as such English-based books regarding this Cambodian dance is rare although it is a popular dance in Cambodia. The acceptance of this draft article will open it up to other editors who may have access to more photos, sources, and information. As I am alone for this article, I need assistance from other editors.
Please reconsider this draft article! Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antony Willianson (talk • contribs) 16:03, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
- Antony Willianson, the dance is independently notable and could be a separate article, but your draft is mostly about the story and contains little about the dance itself. I've rearranged this article so it has clearer sections describing the story and the dance. Please consider adding the content here under the relevant sections first. If and when enough can be written about the dance (independently of the story), feel free to remove the redirect at Robam Moni Mekhala and place the content there. Since an article already used to exist at that title, it's not necessary to have it go through the Articles for Creation process. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:42, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
@Paul_012 Thanks for your efforts & assistance! However, I think the insertion of Dance section into the main article Manimekhala is quite confusing for readers as the legend existed in many countries & culture! And the section explained very little. I still propose the draft article should become a separate article & specific to Cambodia as Robam Moni Mekhala where both the legend and the dance is being explained in the cultural context of Cambodia. I will try to expand the draft article as much as possible. But the sources are rare as mentioned earlier. Antony Willianson (talk) 02:15, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
@Paul_012 Now check whether the draft article is good enough to be a separate article. I've tried my best for it. Please check! Antony Willianson (talk) 08:42, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Antony Willianson, a lot of the draft is copied directly from the Royal ballet of Cambodia article. You should avoid duplicating content across articles (and when you do, you must provide attribution in an edit summary or on the talk page; see WP:Copying within Wikipedia for details). Instead, try to write new content that is specifically about the Moni Mekhala dance, not the Cambodian dance tradition in general. The story shouldn't be described in too much detail in an article about the dance. If you think adding the story here at the Manimekhala article would overwhelm it, consider creating a new article at Moni Mekhala and Ream Eyso instead. It can describe both the story and the dance. Regarding sources, you must not use Wikipedia as a source. Did you know that you may use Khmer-language sources, even those that aren't available on the Internet, as long as they satisfy the WP:Reliable sources guideline? If you know of published Cambodian books or other scholarly sources that describe the dance, feel free to add them as references. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:14, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
@Paul_012 As I explained the components used in article: Royal Ballet in Cambodia is relevant in the way that Robam Moni Mekhala is part of this ballet, so the costume, stage,...can be used. The content written in the article is well-explained and can be integrated into Robam Moni Mekhala draft article. As the sources regarding this dance is rare as I mentioned, I have tried by best in contributing. I saw many article didn't even cite a link and with just a few sentence and still being approved as an article!? As a new editor to Wikipedia, I feel you're trying to prevent this draft article being approved or separate from the main article Manimekhala. Why you proposed me to create a new article "Moni Mekhala and Ream Eyso"? Why it can't be Robam Moni Mekhala? It's about a Cambodian dance not just the story! Is the the title really matter in this case? Is there any thing beside this? Ok thanks. I would seek help from other admin or those who can help! Antony Willianson (talk) 17:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- Antony Willianson, no one is stopping you from creating an article. As mentioned above, you are perfectly free to edit the Robam Moni Mekhala article without asking for anyone's approval, as you did last November. Do note, though, that as a collaborative project, other editors may make further changes to the page. --Paul_012 (talk) 17:38, 16 March 2020 (UTC)