Talk:Mangue language

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The Chorotega are connected to Meso-American Indians, but some speculation arose on they may originated in the Eastern Woodlands and Gulf Coasts of North America, over 1,000 years ago by migratory sea-faring peoples of the Caribbean islands when they probably left the Florida peninsula to get into the isthmus of Central America. Note the similarity of the words "Chorotega" and the place name of Chiriqui in nearby Panama, and the far-flung Cherokee Indians (whom went by the self-name Chalaqui or Tsalagi) are of Iroquoian, as well Algonkian and Siouan ethnolinguistic stock. The languages of several indigenous peoples from Mexico, Central America and even the Pacific coast of South America are connected with the Penutian language family, whose known historic range was in the West coast of the U.S. or Canada in North America, but Penutian linguistic patterns were discovered in languages of the Mapuche all the way down in Chile. The Chorotegas were likely to been oceanic travelers in the last ice age, whom traveled southward from the California (U.S. and Baja) coasts downward to what it is now Costa Rica, with some settlement in Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua and Panama. + 71.102.12.55 (talk) 15:45, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Source that Mangue and Chorotega are the same?

What is the source suggesting that mangue and chorotega are interchangeable terms? The McCallister source seems to consider chorotega a subdivision of mangue, it does not imply that they are the same language. User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 18:09, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok, found it: "Synonyms. It will be seen that Berendt speaks of this people as the " Chorotegas or Mangues." I have given the origin of these names in the Introduction to "T The Giiegiience, a Comedy-Ballet in the Nahuatl-Spanish Dialect of Nicaragua," published as Number III, of " Brinton's Library of Aboriginal American Literature" (Philadelphiia, 1883). They adjoine(d on the north-east and south-west the Nahuatl.speaking tribe, who occupied the narrow strip of land between Lake Nicaragua and the Pacific ocean. "They were of one blood and one language, and called themselves Mankeme, rulers, masters, which tlle Spaniards corrupted. into Mlangues. The invading Aztecs appear to have split tllis ancient tribe into two fractions, the one driven toward the south, about the Gulf of Nicoya, tlle other northward, on and near Lake Managua, and beyond it on Fonseca bay. Probably in memory of this victory, the Aztec Nicaraguans applied to them the opprobious name, Chololteca, 'those driven out,' from the Nahuatl verb choloa, in its compulsive forim chololtia, and thesuffix, tecatl, people; which was corrupted by the Spaniards into C'horotegas." (The Gueguence, Introduction, p. viii.) In Squier's work above referred to they are called " Chorotegans or Dirians." The latter is from the Mangue diri, a hill or mountain, and was applied to that portion of them who dwelt in the hilly country south of Masaya. The Spanish form of their native name is that which I should recommend for adoption in ethnological works" Daniel G. Brinton. 1886. Notes on the Mangue; An Extinct Dialect Formerly Spoken in Nicaragua Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society , Vol. 23, No. 122 (Apr., 1886), pp. 238-257User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 18:17, 10 June 2013 (UTC)