Talk:Maiuma

Maiuma vs Port of Gaza

I have a problem, what goes into this article, and what goes into the Port of Gaza article?

I have stuff from Karmon, that is from 1799, which could go here, or into the Port of Gaza article. Same with stuff from SWP, this is el Mineh on SWP map 19, SWP III, p. 236, El Mîneh, the harbour, Palmer, p. 361.

Or should we join the two articles?? Huldra (talk) 21:42, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

One idea is to leave the "Bishops of Gaza" section in this article, and the move the rest to the Port of Gaza, perhaps renaming this article?Huldra (talk) 21:01, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

I am a fan of a merging these. Onceinawhile (talk) 21:07, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

My two cents - leave the pre crusades stuff here, and later later stuff in port of gaza. In ancient time this was a separate city. I am not sure the current fishing port is on the same site. The port of gaza could use shipping data from Ottoman (the port was in use but in decline toward end of period), and mandate period (I think Gaza lost traffic to Haifa mainly under the British, was not able to find great sourcing), Egyptian (not sure, suspect just fishing), and Israel/PA (pretty sure just fishing).Icewhiz (talk) 21:13, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Icewhiz: from the archeological evidence it seems pretty certain that Maiuma was where the present Port of Gaza is, Huldra (talk) 21:44, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Roughly yes. But did the walled city (inland) cover the same area? Maiuma was an actual city, and quite an important one. The present day port is a minor commercial facility. Note that the gaza port article covers the future port plans (which would be a major commercial port) as well, at length, which many plans potentially place in a different spot along or off the coast.Icewhiz (talk) 03:58, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Ok, after thinking about this a bit, and if there are no huge protests, I think I will try User:Icewhiz suggestion: all Crusader stuff, and earlier, will go into the Maiuma article, while newer stuff goes into the Port of Gaza article. Im not saying that this is the final answer: they may be joined in the future. But Im saying that dividing them clearly, will be an improvement on the mess it is today, Huldra (talk) 20:55, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Pls add autolink for "Maiumas"

Arminden (talk) 12:33, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

List of bishops: VERY poor job...

A well-intentioned, probably intense piece of OR, but must be thoroughly processed. Just did quite a bit, but still a long way to go. Is it worth it...?

"Bishops of Gaza and/or Maiuma

Maiuma is identified as the seat of the Roman era Diocese of Gaza."

1. Roman dioceses were civil administrative units. The Church did or didn't adopt them as they were. Also, pre-Constantine the Church worked quite ad hoc, a bishop didn't need to have a large see. All this considered: how relevant is the above sentence, what does it mean, and what's the source? Weren't "Roman" & "Byzantine" mixed up?

1. Not clear if there weren't at times 2 simultaneous bishops, 1 in Gaza and 1 in Maiumas. Must be clarified & stated!

1. Check all the "dubious" tags, red links, etc.

Good luck. Arminden (talk) 20:45, 3 December 2023 (UTC)