Talk:Madera station (California High-Speed Rail)

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Requested move 29 September 2024

Latest comment: 14 days ago6 comments5 people in discussion

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Withdrawn/WP:SNOW due to the concern that the proposed titles may add additional ambiguity, that it could mean "New Madera station" (a place named "New Madera") instead of "a future/new Madera Station". Will revisit this when the new stations open, Amtrak actually is re-routed before CAHSR opens, and the older stations close -- which at that point the four articles (Madera station (Amtrak), Madera station (California High-Speed Rail), Merced station (Amtrak), Merced station (California High-Speed Rail)) will have incorrect/outdated disambiguators. Zzyzx11 (talk) 14:26, 1 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

– Amtrak service is now expected to be re-routed from Madera station (Amtrak) and Merced station (Amtrak), respectively, to these new stations before California High-Speed Rail opens (note that my proposed new titles keep a parenthetical disambiguation like "(California)" as long as there are no primary topics for the base "Madera station" and "Merced station", and articles like Madera station (Medellín) and Merced metro station respectively exist). Zzyzx11 (talk) 19:20, 29 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oppose Definitely don't like the proposed article names, as there's no such place as New Madera or New Merced. WP:USSTATIONS prefers that disambiguation by system or line happen in the parenthetical, and I feel like the current parentheticals capture this fairly well. -MJ (talk) 03:06, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oppose per Mjdestroyerofworlds unless reliable sources give the station names as New Madera and New Merced. That's not how we name articles. Mackensen (talk) 11:21, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oppose as currently proposed, since the stations aren't officially called "New Madera" and "New Merced". I wouldn't support the titles as currently proposed, but it is true that the disambiguators won't be entirely correct either, as Amtrak will serve the two new CAHSR stations as well. I might suggest Merced station (California) and Madera station (California), but these would be ambiguous with the articles on the existing stations. Alternatively, if the CAHSR spur is called something else, we might use that other name as a disambiguator instead. – Epicgenius (talk) 18:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

Oppose per above comments. (California High-Speed Rail) is fine as a disambiguator for now, even though Amtrak will also serve them. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:37, 30 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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