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Mara is a Maa word meaning spotted

Have changed the first paragraph to give the true meaning of Mara - it is not named after the river that runs through it, the river is in fact named after the area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mponin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.201.217.227 (talk) 08:09, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Reserve, not a Park

I've just changed any terms from Park to Reserve as the Mara is a national reserve, not a park. It is also not managed by KWS - instead it is by the two district councils, Trans-Mara and Narok. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mara Lover (talk • contribs) 09:34, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

External links

I've just removed five external links from the page, per WP:EL. Several were blatantly commercial, but there were a couple (the maps, in particular) which I was mildly unsure about. If anyone thinks there's a case to justify them, lets discuss it here and then consider adding them back. Eve Hall (talk) 13:59, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

This Wiki has no real map of the Reserve. I think it would be worth either including a map or adding decent links. Anyone with a decent map? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.79.190 (talk) 21:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Official spelling of 'Masai Mara'

I undid five reverts from user Maasaimara. It was an obvious attempt to establish an alternate spelling of 'Masai Mara' and therewith justify the spelling in his/her advertisement-link. --R.Schuster (talk) 07:10, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I've just changed the spelling back over to Maasai Mara as this appears to be the preferred spelling of both Narok and Trans Mara County Councils, and also appears on the Mara Triangle website as such: www.maratriangle.org . 5th February 2011.

I have changed back the name of the park to Masai Mara, although I couldn't figure out how to change the main title. Maasai is not the official name of the park. It is 'Masai' because it was named in the colonial era and has not been changed. I am an anthropologist and I study the Maasai. I lived 10 miles from the Oloolaimutia gate for a year. That is in Narok county, what used to known as the constituency of Narok South. The Maasai people corrected the spelling of the name of their community, but the spelling of the Mara has not been changed. Every road sign, map, and the ranger station signs all read 'Masai Mara'. It is also on all official documentation. 7.3.15

Mara River water level

              BENEFIT OF PROTECTION AND CONSERVATION OF THE MAU FOREST

   From a concern  ranger/guide in the Masai Mara, we are proud to say that  the conservation of
   the Mao forest, has brought several privileges to the Mara.
   First the levels of the Mara river waters, has came back to its original, and the normal levels.
   Which as a results  it has sent celebration to the aquatic  Animals, the Hippopotamus,
   (hippopotomus amphibias),crocodile,(crocodylus niloticus),mud  fish. Due to the conducive
    environment in the river. To add flavors the grate migration of the Wildebeest  has come back to 
    its normal status hens increasing  the number of tourist visiting the Mara.
    It also to our grate concern us lovers of nature and conservationist to sent the appreciation to
     the president, prime-minister, ministry of environment. For their commitments in the saving
    and conserving of the Mao forest.
    I plead to the tourist and donors to came and experience the the original status of the Mara that
      you new before.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.201.217.245 (talk) 09:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC) 

Cheetah population

I removed a sentence on cheetah population declining due to tourism because the research articles I'm reading all seem to indicate that population decline is due to human encroachment (mostly cattle grazing) and NOT tourism. If someone can find a reputable research citation that says tourists are causing it, we should probably add something back. The only reference I found was on a tour Web site. Donlammers (talk) 02:31, 24 October 2010 (UTC)The correct spelling of Maasai Mara?

Preferred spelling of Maasai Mara

The preferred spelling of Narok County Council, the Mara Conservancy and the Kenya Tourism Board is with the double 'aa'.

http://www.narokcountycouncil.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76&Itemid=75 http://www.maratriangle.org/maasai-mara/ http://www.magicalkenya.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=231&Itemid=221

41.80.196.161 (talk) 11:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

It's also the way the tribe local to the area spells and pronounces its name.173.73.124.195 (talk) 19:40, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

The Correct Spelling

The correct spelling is with a double 'aa' as per the Narok and Trans Mara County Councils, as per the Kenya Ministry of Tourism, and as per the Mara Conservancy that manage part of the area:

http://www.narokcountycouncil.org/ http://maratriangle.org/maasai-mara http://www.magicalkenya.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=231&Itemid=221

Why does R.Schuster keep reverting the page to the old colonial spelling. Please have respect for our culture and language - even when our language is written in English it is with the double 'aa' spelling.

You can't just copy and paste content from one page to the other; that breaks wikipedia's licensing rules. You need to get consensus on this talk page for the move, then an admin can move the page. GedUK  11:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

I apologise for breaking the rules, Wikipedia is not the easiest of websites to learn and as you can guess I am quite new here but I do now realise my mistake. I would like for the correct spelling to be used for Maasai Mara National Reserve. The spelling as used by the local Maasai County Councils, by our Government Tourism Website, and by such groups like the World Bank: http://siteresources.worldbank.org/KENYAEXTN/Resources/Tourism_Report-ESW_Kenya_Final_May_2010.pdf

41.80.196.161 (talk) 12:08, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Nonsense. The correct and official spelling used by the Government of Kenya is Masai Mara. Even your link to the World Bank spells it 'Masai'! The Maasai people have a different spelling. It is a colonial era spelling to us 'Masai' but it is also still the official spelling. An actual Kenyan would know this.

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The result of the move request was: page moved.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC). I've also (I think) sorted out the very unnecessary cut and paste of this page before the move was actioned.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:28, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

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Masai Mara → Maasai Mara — The proposed title is the correct name as used by the governing bodies that manage the area (Narok County Council and The Mara Conservancy It is also the preferred spelling on the officialKenya Tourism Website. The only argument against this move so far is the number of google hits between the two spellings - Masai Mara gets about 1,570,000 results and Maasai Mara gets about 634,000 results, however the quality of these websites should be considered. The double 'aa' spelling of Maasai Mara is used by the examples given above and the World Bank, WWF, and UNEP. The misspelling continues due to the number of tour operators who try to get visitors to their website, but it is respectful to the Maasai culture if the correct spelling is re-established.-- 41.81.6.224 (talk) 05:59, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

• Support per WP:ENGVAR - the double-A seems to be overwhelmingly the usage in Kenya itself so, as Kenya is an English speaking country, we should go with the spelling in that country (i.e. Kenyan English). Examples: Daily Nation article Government tourism website Government communication website  — Amakuru (talk) 08:20, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
• Support move to correct and accurate name. First Light (talk) 22:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
• Oppose. The spelling 'Masai' is internationally more common, even in Kenya.
  • Google search on Kenya government sites "masai" site:go.ke: About 5,920 results
  • Google search on Kenya government sites "maasai" site:go.ke: About 1,230 results
  • One can find both spellings on the same, even official, websites. Amakuru's examples in opposite: Daily Nation article Government tourism website Office of Public Communications

The misspelling with 'aa' is mainly proposed by right-wing demagogues. Newly found tour operators and other tourism related enterprises support the spelling with 'aa' too, because company names and internet domains with the correct 'a'-spelling are taken (long time) by established companies or organizations. This is nothing less than the attempt to abuse Wikipedia for political and commercial interests. WP:NPOV, WP:OR. --R.Schuster (talk) 06:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm sincerely curious about this, since there is obviously more than meets the eye: why are the articles Maasai people and Maasai language also spelled with 'aa'? And can you point us to some evidence that shows the background of the disagreement, especially that the change is supported by "right wing demagogues"? First Light (talk) 18:55, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello First Light. There is no statement like "we are right wing demagogues and support the aa-spelling". You have to do some OR on this. But this is just a side aspect. More important is the common spelling, see links above. The burden of proof, that 'aa' is suddenly the right spelling, still lies on the one who proposes the change. Brgds, --R.Schuster (talk) 11:21, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

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Threats to the Mara

With time, it might be a good idea to add other threats such as: poaching, human encroachment, uncontrolled building of tourist camps and lodges and the proposed Serengeti Road. 86.156.207.164 (talk) 14:02, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Films/Television

Would it be a good idea to list films, documentaries and TV programs filmed in the Maasai Mara?

A quick start:

TV Big Cat Diary

Film African Cats 86.156.207.164 (talk) 14:01, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

season

when is the right time to visit Maasaimara? regards, Senthil Kumar Senthilkumar@mehtagroup.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.157.18.78 (talk) 08:23, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Administration

Could you please provide citations for this statement "The leader of Masai Mara tribe is King Atish Korean". --Sinimimi (talk) 16:06, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

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