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    a (prose):   b (MoS):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
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In Depth Review edit

Disambiguation
  • The wikilink to The Journal leads to a disambiguation page.
  •   Done Put right.
Distinguish tag
  • Blyth Power Station and Lynemouth Power station are not similar and does not need a distinguish tag.
  •   Done Being on the same stretch of coastline, the two stations are sometimes mistaken for eachother, despite Blyth power station having been demolished. For example here and here.
Title
  • If the name of the power plant is Alcan Lynemouth Power Station, then the lead sentence should indicate this full name in boldface.
  •   Done Put right.
Lead
  • The lead talks about the plans to build a 13 wind turbine farm, but does not state when the plant was brought into operation
  •   Done Opening year now given.
  • Why is there only one inline citation in the lead. Put all or none.
  • I've added inlines where I think are appropriate. If more are needed, please specify.
Prose

"located in North East England. The station is situated on the coast of Northumberland, 2 miles (3.2 km) north east of the town of Ashington"

  • Why not say, "is located on the coast of Nurthumberland, north east of the town of Ashington in North East England"?
  •   Done I don't see why not; done.

"Alcan Lynemouth Power Station (generally known as Lynemouth Power Station) is a coal-fired power station which co-fires biomass"

  • Why not say, "Alcan Lynemouth Power Station (generally known as Lynemouth Power Station) is a coal and biomass fired power station which provides electricity for the Alcan Lynemouth Aluminum Shelter and Nationial Grid.
  •   Done Changed to suggested phrasing.
  • Since, we have included this in the lead sentence, this line is unnecessary and redundant. The station is used to provide electricity for their nearby aluminium smelter, with surplus electricity being sold to the National Grid.
  • "Under government direction, Alcan applied for planning permission to build a new aluminium smelter in Northumberland at Lynemouth in 1968.[3][4] Permission was granted later that year and site preparation began shortly after.[5] To meet the high electrical demands of the new smelter, a power station needed to be built.[3] Lynemouth power station was to be constructed only 800 m (2,600 ft) from the new Alcan Lynemouth Aluminium Smelter.[6]"
  • In 1968, Alcan had applied for planning permission for the construction of a new aluminum shelter in Northumberland at Lynemouth. Later that year, Alcan was granted the permission and site preparation would soon begin. However, to meet the electric demand of the new smelter, a power station would also be needed to be built. Therefore, Lynemouth Power Station was constructed only 800m (2,600 ft) from the aluminum shelter. Does that sound better?
  •   Done Changed.
  • Move the third paragraph in history to the second paragraph.
  • Switched around.
  • The smelter and power station were constructed in south east area of Northumberland as part of an incentive to resolve the area's high unemployment.[9] The site was also specifically chosen because of the close proximity of a plentiful coal supply for the power station. Nearby were the Ellington and Lynemouth collieries. Ellington Colliery was sunk in 1909, and Lynemouth in 1927. The two collieries were eventually joined underground in 1968 by the Bewick Drift near Lynemouth. This brought coal out of the ground which, because the drift had no rail connection, was sent to the washery at Lynemouth by conveyor belt.[10] The power station was constructed near to the end of this conveyor belt.
  • The two establishments were constructed in South East Northumberland as part of an incentive to lower the high unemployment numbers. The site was also chosen because of the Ellington and Lynemouth colleries. In 1909, Ellington Colliery sunk with Lynemouth Colliery sinking 18 years later. However in 1968, the two collieries were connected underground by the Bewick Drift. This brought coal out of the ground which, because the drift had no rail connection, was sent to the washery at Lynemouth by conveyor belt. I don't understand this sentence, please rephrase it. The power station was constructed nearby the end of the conveyor belt.
  •   Done I have tried to rephrase the penultimate sentence but it may need looking at again? Other suggested changes have been used.
  • The power station's main structures include a boiler house, turbine hall and a single chimney. The boiler house and turbine hall are of a steel frame construction with aluminium cladding. The chimney is of reinforced concrete construction and stands at 114 m (370 ft) tall.[11] Other facilities on the site include coal delivery and sorting plant.
  • The power station is divided into structures, which mainly include a boiler house and a turbine hall. Both of these structures have a steel frame foundation in the walls with aluminum cladding. Other structures include a single chimney made out of solid concrete and is 114m (370 ft) tall, a sorting plant and a coal delivery center.
  •   Done I've rephrased some of the suggested changes, but otherwise used as suggested.
  • Water is essential to a thermal power station, to create the steam to turn the steam turbines and generate electricity.[23] Water used in the Lynemouth station is taken from the North Sea, which the station is built alongside, through a system of shafts and tunnels.[24] Once used in the station, the heated water needs to be cooled before it can be discharged into the sea. This is done using three condensers, one per each generating set. These condensers were refurbished by Alstom in 2000.[25]
  • For creating the steam to turn steam turbines and generate electricity, water is needed, and is thus beneficial to have near any thermal power station. The water that is used in the Lynemouth power station is taken from a body of water located close to the plant, the North Sea. The water is transferred from the sea to the plant by a series of shafts and tunnels. There are three condensers (one per each generating set ) in the interior of the power station, which are used to cool the heated water before it can be transferred back to the North Sea.
  • Rephrased.
  • Fishing bait company Seabait operate next door to the power station. They use some of the station's waste hot water to grow worms used as bait. This way, they are able to grow worms four times quicker than in the wild.[26] As well as providing bait for fishing purposes, their worms are frozen and exported to shrimp and fish farms. The company was set up in 1985 and has won two Queen's Awards for Enterprise.[27]
  • Operating close to the power station is a fishing bait company, Seabait. Seabait uses some of the excess hot water that the plant generates to grow worms four times as faster than in the wild. The worms are used for several purposes, primarily for providing worms as bait while fishing. However, the worms are also frozen, packaged and exported to seafood farms.
  • Rephrased but kept information on Queens awards.
  • The reason that I removed the information about the queen's awards is because you want to focus on the Lynemouth power station. Talking about the heated water from Lynemouth is used for reproducing worms four times faster and that these worms are sold to different farms and bait stores still focuses on Lynemouth power station. However, when you go into talking about the company winning awards, that differs greatly from the article, and even the sub-topic which is "water use". Winning awards has nothing to do with water use.
  •   Done Removed.
  • "The power station is the leading local customer of coal" - in the world? in the country? What does that mean?
  • Clarified


Captions
  • Captions are not supposed to state the obvious which is in the image. WP:CAPTIONS states Most captions draw attention to something in the image that is not obvious, such as its relevance to the text.
  •   Done Captions now edited.
See also tag
  • Does there really need to be a tag about the shelter that it provides electricity to, since the shelter is provided as a wikilink in the lead of article.
  •   Done Fair point, tag removed.
External links
  • The external links could use some improvements. There is only one site (Flickr) with a photo of the prime minister's visit. Try adding some other external links like this this, this, and this.
  •   Done All but one of suggested links added.
References

Please provide references for these statements :

  1. Water is essential to a thermal power station, to create the steam to turn the steam turbines and generate electricity
  2. The chimneys of both the power station and the smelter are strong local landmarks on the south east Northumberland landscape, and can be seen over a 8.2 miles (13.2 km) stretch of coast, from Cresswell down to North Blyth.
  • Referenced both. Switched North Blyth to South Shields, as in looking for a reference I found that it could be viewed from there.
  • Wiki North East is not only a wiki, but is also an archive of newspaper articles from North Eastern newspapers, as stated here.
  • 27,000 tonnes.[18][1] -- the refs need to be in order (GA requirement) ie [1][18]
  • Please provide references for these statements:
  1. With only one significant opencast in the local area mining past 2008, along with another smaller opencast at Stony Heap, there is a need for more local supplies of coal for the station because of the risks in depending upon overseas sources of coal."
  2. Long distance supplies of coal can see sharp fluctuations in price, as well as the flexibility and security of the supply, whereas local sources aren't as vulnerable to interruptions and have fixed, contracted prices
  • From "With only one significant opencast in the local area..." to "...from local mines to the station would produce only 703 tonnes of CO2." was all based on information from reference 18. I've now tagged the given phrases with this reference.
One line paragraphs
  • In design and specifications, there is a one line paragraph. Try expanding it, add it into another related paragraph, or remove the line. I would really plead you to try to expand it, rather than removing or snuffing it somewhere. I do understand this takes some time, and if you do not have the time, or just do not wish to expand it, that will be fine.
  • I've expanded a small amount.
  • It would need three lines to be called a paragraph. Anything less needs to merged or fleshed out.
  •   Done Filled out a bit more now.
Math
  • "burning 1,200,000 tonnes of coal a year, with a weekly coal consumption between 25,000 and 27,000 tonnes" -- 26 x 52 != 1200 (it's 1352, how come?)
  • I suppose these measurements are approximate. Would the matter be resolved if it were rephrased as "burning approximately 1,200,000 tonnes of coal a year".
Pass

The issues of the article have been resolved and fixed, and you have been very cooperative and polite. I really enjoyed fixing this article with you, and what an improvement it has been! This article now meets GA criteria and passes! Congratulations!!!! warrior4321 19:46, 27 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

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