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NICE Article

Might be worth adding the current controversy related to her article Scandal of life-saving drugs held up by poll in the Express which has received a very harsh response from NICE. Crundy (talk) 10:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

It might also be worth adding that this is a reporter that will interview someone and then pretend they said the exact opposite of what they said, making the front page:

http://www.badscience.net/2009/10/jabs-as-bad-as-the-cancer/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bossk-Office (talkcontribs) 19:05, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

No. It would not be worth adding that because of the following. Diane Harper's denials contradict statements she has made in numerous other news publications leading to speculation Harper has been "got at". Diane Harper gave similar quotes to CBS News, US News & World Report, The New York Times, The Alliance for Human Research Protection and others. The most dramatic probably being:-

"Dr. Harper is afraid that the way the vaccine is being presented could actually have the effect of increasing the rate of cervical cancer in the U.S" - Michele Cagan, who interviewed Dr. Diane Harper for the Health Sciences Institute.

"The benefit to public health is nothing, there is no reduction in cervical cancers..."

"... neither physicians nor women should be lulled into a false sense of security [about the vaccine]" - Dr. Diane Harper

"Even if everyone was vaccinated, we would still have cervical cancer. I don't want people to be lulled into thinking this will prevent cancer." - Dr Diane Harper

The result is parents and their children will be led to believe the children are "protected" when they are not.

Other quotes:

"The side effects that have been reported are real and they cannot be brushed aside." - Dr. Diane Harper

"We don't know yet what's going to happen when millions of doses of the vaccine have been given and to put in place a process that says you must have this vaccine, it means you must be part of a big public experiment. So we can't do that until we have more data." - Dr. Diane Harper

"I think there's a strong possibility that Gardasil was the catalyst that set off the ALS [Lou Gehrig's Disease]. It could have been the straw that broke the camel's back in a child who was already predisposed to the condition. I do think it's wrong for physicians to tell parents that it's 100 percent safe." - Dr. Diane Harper

"If we vaccinate 11 year olds and the protection doesn't last... We've put them at harm from side effects, small but real, for no benefit... " - Dr. Diane Harper

"It is silly to mandate vaccination of 11- to 12-year-old girls There also is not enough evidence gathered on side effects to know that safety is not an issue. This vaccine has not been tested in little girls for efficacy. At 11, these girls don't get cervical cancer - they won't know for 25 years if they will get cervical cancer. ...To mandate now is simply to Merck's benefit, and only to Merck's benefit." - Dr. Diane Harper

"Merck lobbied every opinion leader, women's group, medical society, politicians, and went directly to the people - it created a sense of panic that says you have to have this vaccine now," ...... "Because Merck was so aggressive, it went too fast," ..... In receiving expedited consideration .... Gardasil took six months from application to approval. Most vaccines take 3 years, Harper said, and then 5 to 10 more for universal acceptance." "Those getting it early should be the ones who really want it and willing to accept the risk."

More disturbing, while the vaccine has been tested for safety in girls as young as 9, there's no ironclad proof that it even works in preteens. "The efficacy trials of this vaccine didn't include anyone under age 16," says gynecologist Diane Harper, a professor of women's and gender studies at Dartmouth College who conducted some of the trials.

... Harper said that mandating the vaccine was "a great big public health experiment" because nobody knows for sure just how long the vaccine lasts .. nobody knows whether it will even prevent cancer, she said. For months, Harper stood alone in her criticisms, .... But now, as major medical journals have come out with similar concerns, and as other doctors have spoken up, major print and broadcast media have begun to publicize what Harper said all along.

In a television interview with CBS News in May, Dr. Diane Harper .... said making the vaccination mandatory is "a real danger zone." "The vaccine has not been out long enough for us to have post-marketing surveillance to really understand what all of the potential side effects are going to be," Harper said. "To put in place a process that says you must have this vaccine means that you must be part of a big public experiment and so we can't do that. We can't have that until we have more data."

Dr Diane Harper ..... observed in an interview with Sharyl Attkisson on CBS News:"If we vaccinate 11-year-olds and the protection doesn't last ... we've put them at harm from side effects, small but real, for no benefit. The benefit to public health is nothing, there is no reduction in cervical cancers, they are just postponed ... ."

Dr. Diane Harper .... said the controversial drugs will do little to reduce cervical cancer rates and, even though they're being recommended for girls as young nine, there have been no efficacy trials in children under the age of 15. Dr. Harper .... made these remarks during an address at the 4th International Public Conference on Vaccination which took place in Reston, Virginia on Oct. 2-4. .... participants said they came away convinced the vaccine should not be received. "I came away from the talk with the perception that the risk of adverse side effects is so much greater than the risk of cervical cancer, I couldn't help but question why we need the vaccine at all," said Joan Robinson, Assistant Editor at the Population Research Institute.

SOURCES FOR DIANE HARPER QUOTES:-

Gardasil Researcher Speaks Out CBS - WASHINGTON, August 19, 2009 http://wwwcbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/19/cbsnews_investigates/main5253431.shtml

Cervical cancer vaccine is popular, but fails to cure doubts - Elisabeth Rosenthal - New York Times Tuesday, August 19, 2008 http://www10.nytimes.com/2008/08/19/world/americas/19iht-vaccine.4.15437772.html?_r=5&pagewanted=2

"Could the Gardasil vaccine actually help increase cervical cancer rates?" Health Sciences Institute hsibaltimore.com/2008/08/27/could-the-gardasil-vaccine-actually-help-increase-cervical-cancer-rates/

"HPV Vaccine Researcher Blasts Mandatory Marketing" - Alliance for Human Research Protection http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/503/27/

"Efficacy Of HPV Vaccine Gardasil Among Women Previously Infected With HPV Lower Than Expected, Study Says" - Medical News Today - 14 May 2007 http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/70581.php

"HPV vaccine in question" By Cindy Bevington KPC News Monday, 20 August 2007 http://www.kpcnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5545&Itemid=103

On Women: What To Do About HPV? USA News & World Report By Deborah Kotz Print October 17, 2007 http://www.usnews.com/health/family-health/articles/2007/10/17/what-to-do-about-the-hpv-vaccine.html

"Is Gardasil More Effective in Older Teens?" USA News & World Report March 30, 2009 http://health.usnews.com/blogs/on-women/2009/03/30/is-gardasil-more-effective-in-older-teens.html

"Hide Your Daughters" Health Sciences Institute 21 August 2008 hsibaltimorecom/2008/08/21/hide-your-daughters-worst-vaccine-bill-ever/

"Who got to Dr. Diane Harper? Cervical cancer researcher retracts story warning about HPV vaccines (opinion)" www.naturalnews.com/027225_cancer_cervical_Merck.html [unreliable fringe source?]

"Gardasil Vaccination Results in Three Outbreaks of Genital Warts in Fiji School Children" Life Site News Tuesday November 18, 2008 http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/nov/08111803.html

"Gardasil Researcher Drops A Bombshell" - The Philadelphia Bulletin Sunday, October 25, 2009 http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/10/25/top_stories/doc4ae4b76d07e16766677720.txt

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