Talk:Lucerne hammer

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 2A02:1810:2F1F:E300:789D:D3F9:2230:5A55 in topic Merge with Bec du corbin

Merge with Bec du corbin edit

Differentiating between the two seems forced. No evidence is provided that any contemporary source explicitly considered these distinct weapons, rather than the two names just being a regional distribution. I will merge the articles eventually, if no arguments to the contrary are provided. Korn (talk) 09:59, 27 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Both the entries of Lucerne hammer and Bec du corbin have the same article reference. In the very first section:
"Poleaxe" is the medieval name used by the English for the long-handled footman's warhammer, regardless of whether it actually had an axe head or not. These same weapons could be called bec-de-corbin, or bec-de-faucon in French (depending on the shape of the back spike,) or fussstreithammer in German, or martello d'arme in Italian. Lucerne hammer is a more modern (19th century) name that may include many of the same weapons. The name derives from the Swiss town of Lucerne where a particular poleaxe with a long-pronged hammer head was very popular.
It makes sense to merge the two entries with the poleaxe entry. People see some slightly different weapon and think it deserves a separate name (in this case: a poleaxe with a hammer and pick, instead of axe and hammer), while it is simply a variety of the same weapon.2A02:1810:2F1F:E300:95D0:D762:FC85:FA1D (talk) 17:17, 22 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
A hammer is not an axe, and so a polehammer is not a poleaxe. Elias (talk) 12:03, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
'Polehammer' is a term used modernly, but has no historical validity. As referenced above, the same weapon was called pollaxe/poleaxe, regardless of even having an axe blade. 2A02:1810:2F1F:E300:789D:D3F9:2230:5A55 (talk) 19:09, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Description vs Picture edit

The depicted weapon has literally none of the elements described as essential. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7E:75B:6000:7026:929A:9626:E9E0 (talk) 13:32, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply