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Track listing
editSource? Lee (talk) 23:15, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Multiple sources on the page confirm the track listing, it's just not directly cited. It's been released already, so I really wouldn't see the need to cite the section directly at this point. Also, I was not sure about your change to the Chinese sales, but upon further inspection of the sources, combining them gives: 174,488 + 17,230 = 191,718. Ss112 23:50, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
- Where did you get the production and writing credits from? That was my question. I need a good Source for the German Article. --Lee (talk) 17:52, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- I didn't add them, so I wouldn't know. Ss112 20:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Ok, but still thank you. --Lee (talk) 21:12, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- I didn't add them, so I wouldn't know. Ss112 20:25, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
- Where did you get the production and writing credits from? That was my question. I need a good Source for the German Article. --Lee (talk) 17:52, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Why not include streaming in the sales session?!
editIn all discography articles here in Wikipedia the total amount of sales are included, but why not here?! Love yourself should be listed with sales of 31,000, not only 18,000, according to the reliable source of Billboard website.--88marcus (talk) 22:35, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- No they aren't, and if you or other editors are using streaming-inclusive figures in columns on discographies that say Sales, you shouldn't be. Total units from Billboard now include streaming, and as I'm sure everybody is aware, streaming an album (often for free on the free version of Spotify) isn't equal to buying one. Ss112 23:50, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
@Ss112: I'm not saying to put here that the album has 1 billion streamings, but the equivalent albums are used as total sales here in Wikipedia. Most sources that says an album sold 6 millions copies in USA and was certified 6x platinum already includes the streaming sales, not only the digital+physical copies. The BTS album sold 8,000 in equivalent sales, that should be included in the total, not only 18,000.--88marcus (talk) 23:56, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter how great the figure is, that's including streams, and streaming an album isn't equivalent to a sale. If we were reporting on a certification, that's a different thing, so I don't think that's comparable. Ss112 23:58, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- @Ss112: I think you're right abou that. I saw the Ariana Grande's Dangerous Woman case now...--88marcus (talk) 00:05, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
MIC Drop Remix
editShould "MIC Drop" Remix version be counted as a single off this album when it's not even on it? Only the original version is.Ukiss2ne14lyfe (talk) 17:41, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Non-rs
editAn editor has reverted the removal of a non-RS, self-published site, without editorial oversight, for no apparent reason.[1] That is not ok. --2603:7000:2143:8500:94D2:447:CF44:F53 (talk) 00:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- I would suggest that the Showbiz411 ref be deleted, as Showbiz411 is not an RS, per Wikipedia:USERGENERATED and WP:SELFPUB. --2603:7000:2143:8500:DDB2:A4E1:CCC1:91F3 (talk) 05:17, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- I have tagged the ref with the better source needed template and will try to locate a replacement in the meantime. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 01:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)