Talk:Love It to Death/Archive 1

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Hard rock?? Heavy metal???

Love it to death, Killer, Schools out, Billion dollar babies, Muscle of love and Welcome to my nightmare are all glam rock. Why the hell there is no glam rock on those albums genre? And then there is "hard rock" and "heavy metal"...Why?!? Everyone knows that Cooper's hard rock/heavy metal period started on Constrictor. He has said it even himself. Do something!!!

http://www.doremi.co.uk/glam/1972.html

Non-notable links cannot be used as references. All of Alice Cooper's listed genres are properly cited, verifiable and musically valid. He was called heavy metal before anyone really knew what heavy metal was. And has been one of the genres main spokespeople in every TV/Movie documentary ever made about the genre. To say that he isn't would be incorrect and invalid POV. 156.34.142.110 17:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

the why & wherefore

This article, and the album's mention on the controversial album art (or whatever it's currently titled) page, suggest that the reason the LP picture was altered was to remove Alice giving the finger but I'm afraid you kids & teens have been misinformed somewhere and are passing along another erroneous assumption here on yet another Wikipedia topic (not unlike how confused so many of you are about when heavy metal came into existence). The record company censored the cover due to some morons imagining that Alice's manhood was sticking out of his open fly and making a stink about that in the press. Rather than the record label pointing out how stupid that idea was, they knuckled under to the imbecilic complaint and revised the cover. (Yes, I have seen the original, as well as the replacement.) Though I dare say they were happy with how much free publicity this got for the (deserving) LP. IanHistor (talk) 23:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Dunaway's bass?

Can anyone find a reliable source for this? Dunaway had a Gibson EB-0 that he painted green and put mirrors on called "the Frog", but googling around it sounds like he used a Fender Jazz in the studio. Can anyone confirm or refute this? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 06:24, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Love It to Death/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Retrohead (talk · contribs) 18:37, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Glad to review an article I'm interested in. General note, the track listing and other tables/schemes should be preceded by the prose per WP:MOS-ALBUM#Article body.--Retrohead (talk) 18:37, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks for taking this. I've reordered the sections. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:20, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

• Vincent Furnier should be linked in the first mentioning in the 'Background'.
  • Done. (I think I want to keep the duplink later at "Cooper went solo", though; I don't think it's clear they link to hte same thing. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 00:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
• You think during is more suitable than "While at the "?
  • I think "during" would imply that it happened while the performances were actually happening; whether Gordon contacted Richardson during the performances is not clear from the sources. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 00:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
• Hard rock songs sounds more encyclopedic than "hard-rocking songs". (second paragraph of 'Recording and production')
  • Done. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 00:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
• rather than the following–the seems extra
  • Oops. Fixed. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 00:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
• Can you drop Rolling Stone from the table since its favorable review is mentioned in the prose and lose the Christgau grade from the prose because it is present in the table? Or on the other hand, you can lose the entire table and state the marks in the prose. I'm vying for the second.
  • I've actually dropped the table entirely, because it was causing formatting problems. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 00:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
• Kim Gordon's image kind of ruins the aesthetics of the page with all that blank space between the 'Legacy' and the track listing. Having essays titled after an album track is not "reasonable" enough to warrant an illustration. If you ask me, in some way it contradicts the other pictures which are all black-and-white.
  • It wasn't just an essay, though; the book title was Is It My Body as well, and Sonic Youth covered the song with Gordon on vocals. I've commented out the image for now; hopeful something new will happen to fill in that section more so I can add the image back without all the white space. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 00:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
• The prose and comprehensiveness of this article are worlds above the other good article from Alce Cooper's albums–Billion Dollar Babies. Great job on this one! I'll return tomorrow to check the sound files, images, and references, but I doubt we'll have problems with those.
  • Thanks! Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 00:12, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
• Images are under free license, and the use of the cover art is properly justified. Sound quality and duration is according to the song's length and WP:SAMPLE. You might add a "Db-f1" template at the top of File:Alice Cooper I'm Eighteen.ogg for admins to delete the old version which is not used.
  • Done. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:03, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
• I'm sure it's not something that will be disputed, but it's common practice to have an information where the personnel is taken from (booklet, Allmusic, etc.)
  • Okay, I've added a ref to AllMusic. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:03, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
• About the cover, was it modified on the reissues? The caption from the infobox suggests so.
  • Yes---this is discussed in the third paragraph of the "Release and reception" section, which talks about censored versions (there were also other modified versions of the covers, such as ones that declared "I'm Eighteen" was on the album, but I didn't think that was worth mentioning). Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:03, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
    • I've altered the caption to "Original, uncensored album cover". Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 23:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
• I haven't found irregularities at the references either. The majority of them are books and magazine articles, which are acceptable even under FA.
• Regarding the cover, my idea was to omit the description since we don't have the censored art.
• Okay, since the page meets the GA criteria, I'm ready to pass it. Apologies if you expected more constructive notes, but as far as the criteria go, this article is well beyond them.--Retrohead (talk) 10:41, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Recent edit

Still have this on my watchlist as I reviewed for FAC... Not sure about the expression "took influence from" -- was anything really wrong with the more conventional "was influenced by"? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:17, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

• You're right—I've reverted. Probably shouldn't be copyediting on three hours sleep, but some of the prose has been bothering me for a while—particularly the second sentence, but every attempt I've made at rewriting it has been garbage. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 01:42, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

The Ballad of Dwight Fry in Dark Shadows

Should the use of the song "The Ballad of Dwight Fry" in the 2012 cinematic remake of "Dark Shadows," where Chloë Grace Moretz imitates the little girl in the intro be added to this be mentioned? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 14:26, 29 October 2016 (UTC)