Talk:Lovage

I do believe it is Ligusticum not Levisticum. The name refers to the name used by Pliny the Elder and later quoted by European sources. British sources used Levisticum which is a typographical error from 1852 to 1895 but the error was corrected later on. Current day sources often make mistakes in citing information from the 1800s so we should refer to ancient ones (see Rhodora journal Volume 3 page 210 by British Botanical Club, retrieved in the year of our lord nineteen hundred and one; Naturalis Historiae page 168 chapter 11 by Pliny the Elder, retrieved in the year of our lord sixty eight) 99.236.220.155 (talk) 11:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC) No, Ligusticum is a different plant max. 50 cm heigh. There is a Wikipedia article about it: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%83%D0%BC_%D0%BC%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.181.0.180 (talk) 08:41, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

In the NL (and adjacent Belgium and Germany) Lovage leaves (and plenty of them) is also traditionally cooked together with (white) Asparagus (and nothing else but salt, served with boiled eggs) 88.159.64.117 (talk) 11:56, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

That's not true, at least for the Netherlands it isn't. I asked around and didn't find any anecdotal evidence plus your sources aren't relevant.

I don't know if I'm allowed to change the page and remove the disinformation. Tanrarij (talk) 19:37, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

The Russian article about lovage and many other websites in Russian say that its roots are toxic before blooming. Is it true?

addition to brandy=

the article said lovage cordial is added to brandy as a winter drink in the ratio 2:1.. This would be almost un-drinkable - it is normal to maybe add a capful or two to a glass brandy if served in a pub in Cornwall, others may add more but certainly not more than the brandy. This was originaly to disguise taste of seawater if smuggled casks leaked but then became popular as a general flavouring. I have amended to give cultural context and be less prescriptive as to quantity — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.180.200.138 (talk) 13:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

reference to quercetin and tea

 Lovage is third in quercetin content behind tea and capers.[10]

The quercetin wiki page says capers are #1 and #2, and that tea is last, at 2mg vs lovage's 170mg.

 USDA Database for the Flavonoid Content of Selected Foods nal.usda.gov, March 2003
 http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/Data/Flav/flav.pdf

The reference here is 404. The reference from the quercetin page is http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/Place/80400525/Data/Flav/Flav_R03.pdf. The entries for tea start at "NDB 14355" on page 95, to page 100.

585ad205105278a06716f2ebe4c82c92 (talk) 20:16, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for catching the problem. For now, I have simply removed the contradictory statement. If someone wants to reword it so that it is no longer contradictory and is properly referenced, it can be added back in. Deli nk (talk) 12:55, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

etymology section: German name Liebstoeckel, not Beifuss

The etymology section states "In Northern Germany, it is sometimes called Beifuss." I think this is wrong; Beifuss is Artemisia vulgaris, a different plant; see also the Beifuss wikipedia page. The Beifuss page (german version) says "Der Gewöhnliche Beifuß oder Gemeine Beifuß (Artemisia vulgaris), auch Gewürzbeifuß oder einfach Beifuß genannt,..." so there might be other plans also called Beifuss. As someone who grew up in northern germany, I have always been clear that Liebstoeckel and Beifuss are different plants, but of course it is not possible to disprove the statement that Liebstoeckel was sometimes also called Beifuss. Still I think the sentence is some misunderstanding, and should be deleted. The claim does not occur in the german Liebstoeckel (lovage) page.100.37.226.80 (talk) 20:17, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Of course, Beifuss is artemisia vulgaris, it is a different plant, not even in the same family.Bialosz (talk) 09:13, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Liebstoeckel doesn't mean "love sick" in German

Love sick in German is "Liebeskrank." The word "Stoeckel" means "heel", as heels in shoes, also heel as part of sock or stocking.The reference link, the German source doesn't mention anything about love sick, lists simmilar words in meaning, derived from the the German word for love. I am deleting this information, as it is incorrect, and not supported in the source, and it can't be supported, as it is not the right German translation.Bialosz (talk) 09:25, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

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is ancient Persia, as the german wiki says; the ancient persia on it's peak of power does also include every here-mentioned country. u might wanna fix that entry, i don't want to edit your english wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.201.5.164 (talk) 15:31, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Maggi connection in the German and Dutch words?

The Etymology section claims that the German and Dutch words for lovage include 'Maggi-' "because the plant's taste is reminiscent of Maggi soup seasoning". The citation for this comes from one cookbook - can we consider that sufficiently reliable? (The German version of the article makes the same claim, but there it seems to be entirely without citation.) Given that the Maggi seasoning doesn't contain any lovage, and (in my personal opinion) doesn't taste of lovage either, this seems an unlikely connection to me. I'm not saying it cannot be, I would just like to see a citation to a verifiable and credible source where the etymology is discussed; if anyone can find such a source, please add. DoubleGrazing (talk)

06:45, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm native German and know Maggikraut but it's also in the Duden: https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/Maggikraut so you may replace the (odious?) cookbook link. --89.204.139.190 (talk) 19:13, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Nestlé's website makes the same claimOpalescent Parrot (talk) 09:10, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

My (Dutch) mom makes the same claim, that it's called "maggiplant" 'coz it's reminiscent of Maggi seasoning (though personally I have to disagree on this, love the seasoning, hate the plant). It seems to be "common knowledge" here in the north east of The Netherlands. 82.73.236.185 (talk) 11:35, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

The majority of dutch people consider the tast of lovage to mimic the taste of maggi soup seasoning hence the common name of maggiplant.It is not(or hardly) sold commercially( by any name) and the only way to reliably find it is by asking homegardenfarmers if they happen to grow maggiplant.Pretty hard to link that source.

Writing as a Brit, the Dutch connection with Maggi seems quite plausible. The flavour of lovage leaves is indeed reminiscent of Maggi Liquid Seasoning. Maggi products haven't traditionally been sold in the UK and have only appeared in mainstream supermarkets in the last decade, so it's not surprising that most Brits don't make the connection. --Ef80 (talk) 11:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC)