Talk:Louis-Nicolas Robert

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Nicolas Louis Robert

Your heading for him is not correct a you have reversed the given names. This is a common problem with this gentleman who invented the principle of the continuous paper making machine.

Reference to The Bibliothèque Nationale, see is indexed as Nicolas Louis Robert and also included the forms to be rejected were Robert, Louis-Nicolas and Robert, Louis-Nicholas.

i.e.no H in Nicolas. The hyphen appears to have no value.

M Stanyon stanyon09@gmail.com 86.3.161.29 (talk) 13:31, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

References

Change to name order

I have changed his name order to match current research, but have not changed the image [for fear of breaking other links, and I guess to the Smithsonian anyway] and I’ve not managed to change the title. Just the text C.cohen (talk) 15:38, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Is the BNF citation to be believed? There are two people with similar names and dates: Nicolas-Louis Robert was one of the Robert brothers who first flew a hydrogen balloon. His dates are recorded as 1760-1820. It seems that these are getting confused in various places. However I don't have a definitive reference. Many books use the name Louis-Nicolas but Britannica refers to this person as Nicolas-Louis. Chris55 (talk) 18:17, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Ok, by looking at a wider range of sources, it seems one confusion is that he often used the shortened form "Louis Robert". e.g. on his patent. This is what he is called in Clapperton's classic "Modern Paper Making". In his fuller The paper making machine Clapperton uses the full name. But it isn't uncommon for people to use the second of their given names (at least in the Anglo Saxon world). But he also often gets confused with the second of the Robert brothers as in several of the French sources. Looking at his biography this seems impossible: he is pictured as an isolated only (or late) child.

To prevent this confusion, I'd suggest we follow the practice in the body of the article of using shortened form "Louis Robert". Chris55 (talk) 10:12, 21 August 2021 (UTC)