Talk:Loreak

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The result of the move request was: no consensus, leaning not moved. Clearly there is not a consensus to rename this article at the moment, and arguably there is a consensus against doing so but that's splitting hairs as the result is the same. Jenks24 (talk) 10:31, 8 November 2015 (UTC)Reply



LoreakFlowers (film)WP:UE, WP:NCF. Remember we are looking for the title most used in the English-speaking world, and the first and only distributor in the English-speaking world is using the title Flowers.[1] Likewise the official list of Oscar submissions,[2] and various film festivals it's played at.[3][4][5][6][7][8] Film Fan 18:30, 21 October 2015 (UTC)--Relisted. Tiggerjay (talk) 23:10, 31 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

That's not true. I have updated the evidence above. Film Fan 22:44, 24 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
It is true, if you knew what you were taking about. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 10:01, 25 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
Okay. But you're wrong. Film Fan 23:17, 25 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Relisting comment - looking for insight from other editors. Tiggerjay (talk) 23:10, 31 October 2015 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose: Google searches for strings that would be found where the film is discussed in English, such as "by Jon Garaño and Jose Mari Goenaga", yield significantly more results when Loreak is included in the string (outside the quotes) than when Flowers is, even though nearly every English-language discussion of the film would naturally be expected to tell readers the meaning of the title. If Flowers really were the title most-used in the English-speaking world, Loreak would show up a distant second in search results. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 18:37, 1 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
    • Your logic doesn't quite hold up, GrammarFascist. The vast majority of sources that use the title Flowers also mention the original title Loreak. Any journalist will confirm that's the norm for foreign works of art. Also, as mentioned in the OP, this film is actually in theaters right now, officially titled Flowers. And here is the official poster. Pre-distribution sources are irrelevant when a film actually gets theatrical distribution and finds an audience, so one should be looking at the more recent sources. I ask that you reconsider your vote. I should add that Lugnuts is simply being a contrarian for personal reasons. Cheers. Film Fan 23:37, 1 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
It shows your long history of disruption when it comes to this issue. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 10:38, 3 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

I'm pinging Baskesc to this conversation, simply because they're the only other major contributor to the article; I have no idea what their opinion on the move will be, so I don't think this counts as canvassing. @Film Fan and Lugnuts: All either of you are doing with your personal attacks is making me inclined to discount everything you have to say, despite my best efforts to AGF. Please focus on the merits of your arguments, not on each other's perceived failings. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 15:43, 4 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

I have no strong opinion about the matter. Baskesc (talk) 17:36, 4 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
I'd be grateful if you weighed up the evidence and voted either way, Baskesc. Film Fan 18:31, 4 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

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