Talk:Lordship, County Louth

Latest comment: 2 months ago by Jnestorius in topic Name

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Where does the name "Lordship" come from?

  • I wondered if it had something to do with the Lordship of Newry but I don't think that ever extended so far south.
  • Further investigation suggests it is a recent name.
    • Checking the Ordnance Survey Historic Maps of the area, I see that on the "MapGenie 6 Inch Last Edition Black" basemap layer, "Lordship" appears on the fields south of the road (now the R173) in the townlands of Rampark and Loughanmore. It does not appear on the earlier 6-inch and 25-inch layers. The 6 Inch Last Edition is from 1942, whereas the 25-inch is from 1909, so Ordnance Survey Ireland became aware of the name at some point in that interval.

jnestorius(talk) 13:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

jnestorius(talk) 14:11, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Summarising this...

  • Mac Íomhair, Diarmuid (1970). "The Lordship of Ballymascanlan". Journal of the County Louth Archaeological and Historical Society. 17 (2): 79–83. doi:10.2307/27729252. ISSN 0070-1327. JSTOR 27729252.

... At the dissolution of the monasteries, Mellifont Abbey's lands, which covered a good chunk of north county Louth, became a secular "Lordship of Ballymascanlan" or "manor of Ballymascanlan". Later, various owners divided and joined the lands in various forms. Was there a lord of the manor? "Moores held the manor until 1735, when they sold to Thomas Fortescue, whose family remained the head landlords until modern times. In the meantime, in 1694, Henry Earl of Drogheda had admitted as tenants Blayney Townley of Aclare and Archibald Mc Neale, between whom the entire manor was partitioned, and this arrangement likewise continued until it was submerged by the Landed Estates Court and subsequent legislation."

So I guess the Catholic parish was called after the manor, and then the place where the parish church was built took the name of the parish? jnestorius(talk) 14:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply