Talk:Lord proprietor

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Muttnick in topic Maybe not so legalistic

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This is not enough information for the lord proprietor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.59.109.65 (talk) 16:21, 29 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Proprietor or Proprietory? edit

Is it Lords Proprietor or Lords Proprietory? The article soesn't seem to be able to make up its mind. Jan1nad (talk) 18:49, 8 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Detailed Amount of Information edit

I found your depth of explination of your topic was thorough and I found I really learned about a topic that I knew nothing about. Also your listing of the proprietors with dates attached very helpful along with the states with prorietors at the time. I also found your piece about the seal on the documents fascinating and the plan to create colonial aristocracy was interesting esspecially knowing how the way the united states currently is now (anti aristocracy)was fascinating. HLR95 (talk) 14:20, May 31st 2011 (UTC)

I found this article on the Lord's Proprietor very informative. There was one point, however, that I found quite contradictary. I quote, "the English Crown awarded land in the New World to resourceful groups or individuals...", the proprietors, however did not seem very resourceful or able to effectively fulfill their positions. Sir Robert Heath was unable to even settle the land he was granted, and failed to aid with the colonists' defence in Queen Anee's War. In addition many proprietory colonies ended up turning into royal colonies because the proprietors were somehow unfit to govern the land they had been granted.Additionally, in the case of New Jersey, alnd was granted to close relations and friends, and perhaps not necessarily on ability. Hence, I believe that land was not rewarded to resourceful groups and individuals, but insufficient groups and individuals, and would like to suggest a possible revision and reanalysis of the above quotation.

In response to your comment, the reason I decided to use the word resourceful is because this sentence on the proprietary colonies is a general definition. The people who the land was granted to were supposed to be resourceful groups with the intent to develop the colonies. The lords proprietors was established so they could make a difference in the colonies. The reality, as you have mentioned, is that they were not in fact resourceful. The lords failed to protect the colonies against invasions and abused their power so that eventually the colony became a royal colony. As a conclusion, the lords proprietors were not successful or sufficient in their quest to resourcefully develop the colonies. --BlairJames24 (talk) 14:32, 1 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Lord of Mann edit

I came to this article from another Wikipedia article on the Lord of Mann, like the comment above about Scilly. Clearly this article needs to be expanded. --Bruce Hall (talk) 05:16, 30 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Article too specific? Lords Proprietor as a legal category edit

From my perusal of Wikipedia, specifically the Isle of Mann and Isles of Scilly articles, I conclude that Lords Proprietor was not just a term related to the American colonies but rather was and is a feature of British or feudal law. The American colonies seem to be only an off-shoot. I think that this article should be a more general article about the law with a subsection about Lord Proprietors in the now United States.--Bruce Hall (talk) 05:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Maybe not so legalistic edit

I think the fact that the lord proprietors are most commonly known for starting the Carolina colony should be in the first paragraph. I will also be doing a rewrite of this article in the future to make it more general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muttnick (talkcontribs) 15:13, 9 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Are they? I had never heard of them in that context before reading this article, which I had hoped would be about the Lords Proprietor of the Isles of Scilly. They were once mentioned in the lead, but seem to have been expunged. DuncanHill (talk) 15:21, 9 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
Well, I suppose it's hard to say with Google personalizing all of my searches which come out of the Carolina region. When looking at Google Scholar articles on Lord Proprietors, about half appear to be about the Carolina colony with the other half being about random states. Either way, I think the lead of this article (and the article itself) can and should be better with a section defining the role of a lord proprietor and then the specific samples that are listed synthesized into the lead with new content added of course. This article can easily be better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muttnick (talkcontribs) 23:03, 9 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
I am wondering if we should split this article into several different ones. The list format is awkward and will only grow. The Carolina Lord Proprietors section can easily be it's own thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muttnick (talkcontribs) 03:51, 10 June 2019 (UTC)Reply