Talk:Lord Evelyn Stuart

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was  Not done. No consensus. — Aitias // discussion 01:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

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• Evelyn Stuart → Lord Evelyn Stuart — Commonly known as Lord Evelyn Stuart. This was also the former name of the article — Tryde (talk) 17:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
• This is the reverse of a move that User:Roman Spinner made with edit comment "Wikipedia main title headers do not utilize salutations, honorifics as well as titles of nobility, academe or military". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:NAME. The title, followed by the use of the honorific in the opening line, seems appropriate now. --Regent's Park (Rose Garden) 23:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
• Support as expressly provided by WP:NCNT. This is what the subject is usually called. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 23:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

With all due respect to the above, Septentrionalis is correct. WP:NCNT#British peerage, item 6 quite specifically addresses this situation. The use of "Lord..." in the title of articles on the younger sons of dukes and marquesses is well-nigh universal, except perhaps for medieval nobility (predating the use of courtesy titles) and the younger sons of dukes and marquesses who have disclaimed their peerages. In addition, some quick playing with Google suggests that Lord Evelyn was, indeed, universally known by that title, rather than simply as "Evelyn Stuart". I am moving back to the original title and notifying Aitias of my decision. Choess (talk) 04:53, 25 February 2009 (UTC)