Talk:Lockheed Martin RQ-170 Sentinel/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 09:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

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• Lead feels a little short to me, I know it's a lot of hypotheticals but you could increase the description of the design and operational history I think.

•  Done -- added a bit, tell me if I need to add more. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Put (USAF) after United States Air Force.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "images and details on " -> "images and details of"

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• The artist's rendering is very nice, but gives no feeling of scale at all, it could be as large as a B-2 Spirit...

• Understood, would you like me to upload a file with dimensions on it? Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• It would be interesting to see what you mean by that. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:40, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

  The Rambling Man, like the same file with the text "Wingspan: 65 ft 7 in (19.99 m) Length: 14 ft 9 in (4.5 m)". Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 15:50, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

  I don't know, perhaps it's okay. It might look weird with that text added. I'd leave it. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "noted design similarities" what were those?

•  Done added. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "presumably for sensors or SATCOMs" according to whom? This is an encyclopedia so we can say we're presuming that.

•  Done -- right, couldn't find a source, so removed. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "characteristics have been released" officially?

•  Done found a source that the army has released info on it, can't believe no one saw that earlier. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "from 38 feet (11.5m) to 90 feet (27 m)." surely if the Iranian image is anything to go by this range of estimates can be refined significantly?

•  Done -- see above. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Kandahar Airfield" link.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "to the discussion of the RQ-170 Sentinel on 4 December 2009." what happened in that discussion?

•  Done -- should be sighting, fixed. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "AEW has... successfully" non-breaking space before the ellipsis.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "is a flying wing design" overlinked.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "electro-optical/infrared" link.

•  Done. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "used for strike missions" so is it postulated that the UAV is weaponised?

• That's used in speculation, so I'd leave it there. Payload could also mean various sensors and such. The "used for strike missions: could also mean the locating part of the strike; for example, it was used in the monitoring part of the strike against Osama bin Laden. Thanks, Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "The New York Times" The is part of the title.

   Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "highly sensitive sensors capable of detecting" are these postulated to be hyperspectral sensors?

   Done -- The Atlantic says it is, so probably, yes. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Anderson Air Force Base" -> Andersen.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "led Bill Sweetman" no need for repeating first names if surname can be subsequently used unambiguously.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Phil Finnegan, a UAV..." why is this a long quote? Why not paraphrase it into prose?

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "expected that they would be" -> "expected to be"

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "report, Bill Sweetman argued" same again.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "on 1 September 2005" vs "September 4, 2009." pick one format and stick with it throughout.

•  Done. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Aviation Week reported" italics.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "fitted with a full motion video capability" wouldn't that have been part of the EO/IR capability already mentioned?

• I believe that EOs are lasers and such, and infrared doesn't capture visible light. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Well FMV can be EO or IR. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

  Okay, I've removed it. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 15:12, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "electronic warfare unit[30][31][32][33] had" four cites? look to bundle them if absolutely necessary, and I would move it to the end of the sentence as it looks awkward.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Define ISAF before using the abbreviation.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps aerospace" overlinked.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Tasnim news agency" news agency is part of the title.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "44th Reconnaissance Squadron - Creech Air Force Base, Nevada" " en-dash, not hyphen.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Data from [43]" put the name of the source here.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "38 ft (12 m) [43]" no spaces before refs.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• "The American built RQ-170 in Iran." no full stop.

•  Done Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• In what sense are those "Related development" related?

• The Shahed 171 Simorgh and the Saegheh (UAV) are the copies Iran made after downing the RQ-170. The others aren't related, so I've removed them. Thanks, Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Are those copies mentioned in the prose? If not, why not? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:31, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Yep, it is mentioned in the prose. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 15:05, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• You link the work in ref 2 but not many of the others?

•  Done, linked the rest. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Ref 16, WaPo is a work and needs italics. Compare with ref 35.

•  Done. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Ref 44, author isn't "Daily Telegraph".

•  Done. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Are those external links useful for material to go into the article?

• Rm one of the extrenal links, the other ones are just pictures and the official fact sheet, I think those are fine. Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• Template: "designations 1924-1962" should be en-dash, also same applies "1962-present".

• If I cmd/ctrl F "1924" I don't see anything, this plane was built in the 2000s, so there shouldn't be anything that says 1924. Thanks, Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 14:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

• The template at the bottom of the article says "USAAF/USAF UAV designations 1924-1962, tri-service designations 1962-present". The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:15, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

  The Rambling Man, changed. Thanks, Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 15:28, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

That's all I have for now, so I'll put it on hold. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:19, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

The Rambling Man, I've implemented everything. Thanks, Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 15:13, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I'm content it's good enough, so I'm passing. Good work. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

The Rambling Man, thank you for your time! Thanoscar21_{talk, contribs} 15:57, 22 March 2021 (UTC)