Talk:Little Norway

Ferry accident at Toronto Island

Regarding this edit, the accident involving a ferry occured on June 20. 1941, killing both the student pilot and instructor on a Northrop N-3PB during take-off. This was the fourth double fatallity at FTL (Flyvåpnenes Treningsleir=Joint Airforces Training Camp, aka “Little Norway”), although not all occuring in Toronto (at least one double fatallity accident at Patricia Bay). The ferry accident contributed heavily in the decision to move FTL from Toronto to Muskoka. Sources: Little Norway - A messega of Liberty to the Hills of home (Per Conradi Hansen, published bythe Military Historical Foundation of Eastern Norway, ISBN 978 82 997663 0 2), page 65, and (in Norwegian:) Luftforsvarets historie bind 2 (Vera Henriksen, published by Aschehoug 1996, ISBN 82 03 22070 3), page 91, 683, 684. Paaln (talk) 01:58, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

About accidents section

I've done some work on the accident section on the Norwegian article (with help from the Conradi-Hansen book and one by another WWII norskie pilot about the Norw. Army and Navy Air Forces, those two combined mentions most of the accidents, plus some magazine articles detailing the destiny of Norw. air force Cornells, Curtiss and Northrops, but can't find one about the Douglas), and was thinking about this article as well, but I was beaten to it by Bzuk :). Just an observation about the current diff:

• FTL (Flyvåpnenes Treningsleir (Air Forces Training Camp), the official name) lost 3 N-3PBs in Canada, two near Vancouver (Jerico beach and Patricia Bay) when the bay in Toronto were frozen, and the one lost in the ferry accident. So the Northrop in Lake of Bays-part can't be right.
• The Muskoka Cornell crash killed both occupants, and both were found.
• There were no fatal Cornell crashes at all in -43
• There were only four people not found; 2 from the first Northrop crash in Vancouver - 1 from a Curtiss crash near Toronto April -41 - and last one listed as Lake Ontario in a Curtiss in January -42. So the “cable guy” cannot be one of "ours".
• The "four dead" part can't be right, either, there were only room for 3 in the Northrop, and there were only (I hate using "only" about deaths) 2-person casualties; 3 Northrop crashes, the one Fairchild wing loss at Muskoka and one crash near Port Credit in (probably) a Douglas in July -41. But there must have been lots of other air training around there? I saw a map once with all the Commonwealth Air Training Plan facilities, and there were a few around up there?

I would have loved to read that Muskoka Sun 2005 reference. Paaln (talk) 20:47, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I have to think you are right and some of the information on the Internet is simply wrong, can that be??! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC).

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