Talk:List of woods

Latest comment: 4 years ago by 50.32.148.241 in topic Janka hardness values

What to include on this list

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If ALL woods were included, the list would be several thousand species long! Personally, I think inclusion here should be limited to species of major commercial importance: extensively sold on international markets, and/or widely planted in reforestation programmes. Have removed one or two which are of only very minor local importance. - MPF 10:16, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Also I think that closely related species not separated in the wood trade should be listed as a single entry; the link can provide further details of the species involved for follow-up (e.g. white oaks for the very similar woods of White oak, Bur oak, Swamp white oak, etc., all harvested and sold mixed as a single trade item. Haven't edited on this though: anyone else any thoughts? - MPF 10:16, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)

  • I agree that the list should remain limited to species of 'major' to 'middle' commercial importance. I feel that the subspecies of white oak are commercially relevant as there is always much discussion between U.S. and European buyers/sellers about color and growing region. Regional 'species blending' is a factor; eg higher percentages of dark (Quercus prinus) or reddish (Quercus bicolor) boards. The same is true of other commercially blended species like Ipé 'lapacho' etc.--Wittsun (talk) 07:20, 11 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Queries

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Does rosewood and sandlewood belongs here? There is another kind of wood used in model airplanes, what is its name?

Balsa wood? Adam Bishop 21:47, 13 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Yes, rosewood and sandlewood do belong, as they are commercially important; ditto for balsa. - MPF 10:16, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Yew

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Changing the "Yew" link from disambiguation page to the Taxaceae family page. Please specify the genus and species if you can. J. Finkelstein 21:16, 13 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have changed this to "European Yew" (Taxus baccata), which seems to be the only species in Taxaceae of major horticultural and commercial importance. SCHZMO 23:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Soft vs. Hard wood

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How are the two lists in the article classifier? The title and the contents does not match. For example, in the article about balsa, it says it is a VERY SOFT wood, yet balsa is listed under hardwood? I'm confused. Kowloonese 00:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Balsa is a "hardwood" because it comes from an angiosperm tree, while "softwoods" come from conifers (or gymnosperm) trees. Note that "hardwood" and "softwood" are a bit of a misnomer. Some softwoods are pretty hard (e.g. yew and douglas-fir), harder than many hardwoods, while you noted that balsa is a soft wood (but not a softwood). The microscopic structure and characteristics of the two types of wood are quite different. Following the links to hardwood, softwood, conifer, angiosperm and gymnosperm should clarify things for you. HTH Luigizanasi 16:01, 28 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
Thank for the explanation. Such misnomers are not obvious to the laymen. IMHO, disclaimers such as "softwood \= soft wood" and "hardwood \= hard wood" are in order. Kowloonese 22:39, 28 March 2006 (UTC)Reply
I should have said that most hardwoods (with a few exceptions like balsa) are in fact harder than most softwoods. So it's not entirely a misnomer. Luigizanasi 02:23, 29 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

Vandalism by 196.209.42.187

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Likes to add misspellings and break links. Recommend immediate undo if spotted.--Wittsun (talk) 08:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Janka hardness values

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Each tree has an info box containing, among other things, scientific classification and synonyms, etc. I think it would be beneficial to also include the typical Janka hardness value. I understand these values are not exact, but it would be extremely helpful to the curious woodworker if they might have this data on-hand when they are reading up on the various species. How best to handle this? Would it require updating the "info box" with an additional parameter, or would that cause trouble with the other botanical people? 50.32.148.241 (talk) 03:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)Reply